Hill Cool to Bush Immigration Plan

Washington Post ^ | 1/11/04 | Helen Dewar

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

President Bush's proposal to give temporary legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants is running into stiff resistance from both left and right on Capitol Hill and stands little chance of enactment this year, according to supporters and opponents. While this assessment is based on early responses, with the lobbying effort barely begun, some lawmakers say the measure's only chance of passage this year would require an all-out push by the president, and even that might not be enough.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Maybe the Democrats will have a real chance to win.

Perhaps. Bush had done one thing for me...he's getting me to vote Republican again. But it will be a vote for Tom Tancredo not Jorge.

It scares me silly to think of him in office for four more years...four years in which the restraint of re-election will not apply. I wouldn't put it past him to grant amnesty with one of his infamous signatures. Let's face it...that's what he really wants to do.

[Sabertooth]

Butt out already.

Christ, you're an annoying weasel.

Hey, don't get cranky with me.

I didn't put the draft in your icehouse.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Typical wisdom is that he hopes to get the hispanic vote...I don't see that happening,

No..the report from the streets is that legal Hispanics are furious..they're worried they'll lose their jobs to illegals.

[WRhine]

I really, really, dislike WhineR.

Hmmm. What are you going to do about it Fufkin? I dislike Socialists too and that is what you are.

[ArneFufkin]

Didn't you jokers star in the Bumfights video?

Uh ... speaking for myself ... no. WRhine is a bum, so that's possible. I never saw the tape.

I understand it was a big seller in your trailer park, however.

[Mr. Mojo]

racist

Racist? For opposing the Prez's plan? Lotta racists on the GOP side of the aisle in Congress then. And what was the final tally in this forum, 65%?

In all honesty, would you support the exact same plan if it were proposed by a 'Rat Prez?

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Yes, they will wait until they are safetly re-elected, then they will screw us.

That's why it's up to us to do our homework and vote preemptively. Vote out anyone who is likely to pass this madness. As I recall, most of our politicians got very bad marks on the illegal issue.

I'm going to attempt to nail mine to the wall. I intend to let them know I'll vote them out if they even consider this madness.

[Texasforever]

I see he is holding everyone's coats again.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

You seem to labor under the false impression that Republicans are Conservatives. LOL They haven't been for years now.

[Cultural Jihad]

WhineR is a whiner, after all.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

We could be looking at another 94. Bush has stepped into it big time, I've never seen the conservative base of the GOP this pissed off.

I agree. Just on this site alone, I'm amazed at how many have sworn to vote Bush out of office. In surfing around, most people are furious. He may well be a one-termer.

[Texasforever]

You seem to labor under the false impression that Republicans are Conservatives

You seem to misunderstand the term "conservative".

[ETERNAL WARMING]

A leader leads, he doesn't shove it off on others. He leads and faces the consequences for better or worse. Bush is a cop out artist.

[Cultural Jihad]

I would like to see more of those who become easily apoplectic over immigration reform repudiate your racist words.

[WRhine]

Uh ... speaking for myself ... no. WRhine is a bum, so that's possible. I never saw the tape.

Blathering on the Internet is just So Easy, Isn't it? Have another one Arne! Hell, post the Night Away! You Were There! LOL. You Just Didn't Play the Game.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

LOL I had planned on writing in Keyes or Third Party failing that. But Bush has now convinced me to vote Tancredo. I'm with him all the way. I'm contacting his office on Monday and volunteering time and money to his campaign.

I came up with the slogan...Shut the door in 2004 Vote Tancredo and it's his if he wants to use it.

[jocon307]

Well Kent, you are trapped in Liberal Seattle, I am trapped in Third World Hudson County, NJ. This season I couldn't find a copy of "The Cat in the Hat" that was not in both English and Spanish. I'm horrified at what Bush has proposed, not so much at the proposal itself but at all the many, many issues it left unaddressed.

I, for one, do not think the entirety of our immigration problem consists of how to legalize dishwashers, or make sure there are enough chambermaid for hotels. But you'd never know it from reading Bush's proposal. If that was the whole problem, it would be well addressed by his proposal, it isn't and that's why it's getting opposition from all sides.

So, yeah, let's go to the happy place and be glad there will be no substantial legislation on this this year. Let us hope that this half-baked campaign souffle will not keep W from getting re-elected. And let us devoutly hope that this serious issue will be addressed in a serious way sometime in 2005.

But if you are not living in one of the states that are "high-impacted" by immigration, legal and illegal, just be aware that in many places in the US today you would look around you and doubt you were in this country at all. If you need a place to check out, I reccommend West New York, NJ. While you are there try and find ONE SIGN in English. I DO NOT want to live in a Latin Civilization. The Hispanics can learn English as well as any other group, but if they don't have to, why will they?

Further, look at the campaigns to import whole villages of Africans to towns in New England, when the town resists this burden, they are denounced (gleefully!) as racists.

I have seen many people who feel the way I do denounced as racists on these threads. I am not a racist, and up until 9/11 I was practically an open border advocate. On that day I realized that our foolish failure to enforce our laws had permitted people bent on wholesale murder and mayhem into our country. People who want to kill all the Hispanics in West New York as well as you and me. Bush's proposal does not even address this, except to give some hollow promise that "the borders will be protected". He doesn't even discuss student immigration, which was the source of the 9/11 terrorists.

They all better go back to the drawing board. And I hope Bush and Co. are feeling the heat over our dissatisfaction with his poorly conceived plan.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

No Kent, you've been ranting steadily against anyone who is pissed at the illegal issue. Take a deep breath...then go back and read your posts.

[TommyUdo]

"So when does the ethnic cleansing of the gringos start? Oh, that's right, it already has But when we're all gone from Atzlan, who's gonna pay welfare to your compadres?"

As I had the good taste to receive most of my Father's Delightfully Dominant Genes, I'm not particularly worried about being cleansed (Unless it's my Wallet when the Bush Hater Party types around here get Dean Elected). However, my children have betrayed the cause of La Raza and are sporting (audible gasp) Blonde Hair and Blue eyes, like their Mother! I mean really, these Kids could star in an advert for the Schickelgruber Youth. I suppose if things get too bad, I guess we'll have to invest in some Black hair dye and Brown contacts for the kinder.

I thought you'd heard? Once all the Gringos (we're keeping the Gringas, but only the really cute one's--Oh Lawdy not miscegenation!) are 86'd (or 187'd) we won't need Welfare, because we'll all be WORKING.

And your wimmen will be pounding Tortillas in the Front yard, while the Hombres muy malos (or MuyMuy as we used to say in the Barrio of Dayton, Ohio where I grew up) sit in our Bucket Seats from the inop Monte Carlo blocking the sidewalk, twirling our mustashios and drinking Jose and tokin' on a dube...ahhhh, Libertarian Paradise....

[dagnabbit]

If Bush's Amnesty and Global Labor scheme is going to somehow contribute to national security, why is it only now being proposed, so late in the President's term?

Shouldn't this have been introduced right after 9-11?

If the plan will truly make us safer, why have we had to wait so long for its protections?