Posted on 02/12/2016 6:47:29 AM PST by Sybeck1
I have been studying health care policy for 20 years now. I am also a multi-state licensed health insurance broker who continues to operate in an increasingly less competitive and more bureaucratically controlled system on both the federal and state level. During the last 20 years I have seen a lot of changes in the U.S. health care system. Some of them good (HIPAA) and some bad (Reaganâs EMTALA) the PPACA a.k.a. âObamacareâ etc.
During the last two decades I have read everything I could get my hands on pertaining to health care policy. I also spent the longest two weeks of my entire life reading the PPACA â Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act â shortly after it was passed into law on March 23, 2010. I have also appeared on television, radio and written expert commentary on health care policy on this blog and for professional business journals around the country. If there is one thing I know it is health care policy and if there is another thing I know it is a lie when I hear it.
I have bit my tongue long enough. As a delegate for Senator Ted Cruz I have been placed into a difficult and increasingly uncomfortable position and now I have had enough! Continuing to support Senator Cruz after he repeats incorrectly and ad nauseum that âA vote for Donald Trump is a vote for Obamacareâ and, that âif you vote Donald Trump, you vote for Bernie Sanders-style socialized medicine.â Or even worse that Trump, Clinton and Sanders âhave the identical position on health careâ has forced me into a crisis of conscience. These are statements that even the left leaning Politifact has correctly identified as FALSE.
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Much better, or much less bad...
Got to remember we are dealing with WORLD here. WORLD. What does the bible say about WORLD?
I’d be happy to forget about Trump’s past hardcore left-wing political stances and activities, if I believed for one minute that he has actually changed.
But it’s quote obvious that he hasn’t.
He’s just playing you for a fool.
And frankly (to get something off my chest which I think is from God)... if we are going to manage world, we might as well not pretend it’s Christian. Might as well have someone who may be friendly to Christian (so that it can provide its salt and light) but who thinks world and never expects world to behave in a Christian way.
Caesar and church have never been a good mix. Even Joseph in Egypt was the vice-Pharoah... not the Pharoah. Daniel in Persia was an advisor to many kings. Neither acted to perforce stop the paganism, nor should they have tried to... this was not in mission. By trying to make “Christianity” powerful, Christians have managed to put a damper on the power of Christ Himself. Christ was not born into the world to staff the DMV. To use an example more close at hand, Christians have been wringing their hands over “prayer being banned from schools” while never stopping to think that if it went in there through the KIDS, we would not need Caesar to push it, in fact Caesar would never be able to stop it.
Our sole historical exception is the land of Israel. Which explains the fascination of modern Christendom, with its reawakening to fundamentals, with it. Israel is on a divine wavelength with the church. But no Caesar is, ever.
What makes it “quite obvious”? Only your misrepresentations and those of those in your echo chamber.
He’s asked for DEALS and it shows in the manifestos he has come up with for the 2nd Amendment.
You want to keep on lazily criticizing because it feels so good to compliment yourself. Good thing Jeff Sessions didn’t. But Jeff Sessions can’t mentor Trump in everything.
And even if Trump played me for a fool that would be light years superior to what you are doing... playing yourself for a fool. Trump might disappear from the picture and that would end the game you are accusing me of. But there’s no escape for your game if pursued to the bitter end. Its destiny is literal hell.
I’m afraid that is where we see the same information and draw different conclusions. You see a business savvy outsider who has little tolerance for incompetence. I see a man of low morals who is a blank slate upon which people are pinning their hopes, united in their anger. It could be we are both, or neither, right.
You're cracking up, man. Seriously, get help.
Thank you for the link...but I think this page pretty well supports what I've said and what other Trump supporters have told me.
The page starts from 2000 where Trump was FOR "single payer". He "evolved" from "single payer" to "universal healthcare"....by 2015.
About crossing state lines........in this instance, he's talking about EMPLOYERS, like himself, not having the ability to cross state lines to find cheaper bids for the insurance he has to provide...which will save him money.
BINGO. And IMHO, anyone that wants to "replace" Obamacare with "their version" of a "socialized system" is perpetuating the degradation of the health system we used to have.
Really? Name one govt health system that runs well, provides good care, and isn’t bankrupting America?
In fact what I said was, the devil is in the details. If government is not controlling but merely paying for healthcare for some citizens, which it did even before Obamacare, then it might actually be a benefit.
For example, there used to be an option where you could get catastrophic coverage, and paid you own way up until you had need to rely on the catastrophic insurance.
If you were able to tailor your coverage to preclude certain types of coverage you know you will never need, such as pregnancy care, then your premiums would be reduced.
Instead of having a government plan where one size fits all, they are private plans without restrictions as to what your coverage must include., then your premiums would go down
Besides you do realize that you are, and have been, paying for people without coverage, right? You get charged more through your insurance to offset losses incurred by hospitals who have to treat everyone that walks through the door.
Lastly I said I do not think that Trump would ignore the majority of the population, like the majority of our elected officials now do, if there was a large outcry coming from the citizens.
Also I suggest that you read the article to get a better understanding of what Trump wants to do. I must admit I hadn’t really read it because I didn’t have the time. But now that I am reading it you understand that Trump at one time, years ago, thought a single payer system was what was needed, but he no longer holds that position.
We don’t pay more for insurance to pay for uninsured. We pay for it through taxes or rather we borrow for it.
We need to bring costs down by cutting g out the kidleman, the insurance companies themselves.
I don't want a system where the government forces me to have insurance. I don't want a system where government picks up the tab for people without insurance. I want a system where government gets the hell out of the way. And because of that, Donald Trump is not my candidate.
So essentially, Donald Trump lines up considerably to the left of Mitt Romney. And people here who would never consider voting for Romney are falling all over themselves to vote for Trump.
I take it that you are not a free market Conservative. The best way to bring down costs is for the government to get the hell out of the way. Consumers who purchase insurance are risk-adverse. But not all consumers are risk-adverse. Denying people the right to purchase insurance is just as bad as forcing people to buy insurance.
My apologies. I took your statement out of context.
Those are Trump's own words. Perhaps you should ask instead why you are so heavily in denial about what Trump said. Here it is again for you:
Pelley: How do you fix it?
Trump: There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private. But-"
Pelley: Universal health care.
Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.
Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably-
Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Trump: -the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
They can have everything? He sounds like Bernie Sanders.
Np. We don’t have a free market now. We do have a system of massive fraud and price controls.
If I pay cash for an office visit it’s $90. If I use insurance I pay 20 now and the insurance company pays about 19 after 3 to 4 months. Doctors here can’t reduce price for cash.
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