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Donald Trump's front-runner status has virtually evaporated
Business Insider ^ | 3 hours ago 09-27-15 | Maxwell Tani

Posted on 09/27/2015 10:24:42 AM PDT by entropy12

A new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday shows Carson with 20% support among Republican primary voters nationally, just 1 point below Trump.

Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) tied for third in the poll, both grabbing 11%, while former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's (R) support sunk to 7%.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: California; Florida; New York; Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; california; carlyfiorina; carson; demagogicparty; election2016; florida; jebbush; marcorubio; maxwelltani; memebuilding; nbc; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; trump; wallstreetjournal
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To: brothers4thID

Oh man...I literally go back to the days of the Abacus lol


81 posted on 09/27/2015 4:26:01 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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To: 11x62

Thanks

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82 posted on 09/27/2015 5:46:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Ain't Trump concernment great? Ignore fake concernment & vote Trump/Cruz 2016/2020, Cruz/? 2024/28!)
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To: 4Runner
Is it worth it to you to learn how to italicize quoted text? Otherwise everyone has to guess if those are your words or someone else’s.
83 posted on 09/27/2015 7:55:05 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: Finny

I like Ted Cruz and he was my first choice. Then he began to engage in some odd behavior, like trusting Mitch McConnell, voting for the Corker bill, the TPP/TPA/TPWTF debacle, wanting to vastly increase H1B’s without addressing the displacement of American workers in favor of cheaper foreign imports.

I probably would have overlooked all that were it not for another viable choice.

In my lifetime, we’ve never had a man like Trump step up and put himself on the line like he is doing. We’ve never had a candidate who wasn’t beholden to big donors, many of whom have agendas contrary to the will of the American people.

I’m tired of this country losing. I’m tired of everything that’s real whithering on the vine while we dither about who is or isn’t ‘conservative enough’ to be the the guy who blows smoke up our collective rears while actually accomplishing nothing for our agenda at best or at worst actually enabling the agenda of the left. The GOPe had the whole primary system rigged to stop Cruz anyway. There is only one reason we’re not gnashing our teeth as we watch Yeb Boosh win every primary with like 16%: Donald J. Trump.

Enough is enough. I don’t pretend that I’m going to be in favor of every idea Donald Trump has, but I know he’s seen incredible success in the real world. I can’t see any reason why he would be lying to us about what he wants to accomplish just to get a job that amounts to a step down in just about every way from his current one.

I also cannot see why I should settle for a politician (Even a good one) when I am presented with the choice of a private citizen making such a tremendous sacrifice and putting his reputation at stake. I remember something about lives, fortune, and sacred honor being sacrificed. That’s how I see what Trump is doing right now.

I do wish he were a better communicator, but he makes up for it with his deft command of the media narrative and a serious pair of brass ones.

Even though I am a New Yorker by birth and lived in NYC for the first 28 years of my life, I really never thought much of or about Donald Trump prior to his running for president. I always just thought of him as the asshat who blocked the tiny sliver of view of the river from my parents’ apartment years ago.

Since he’s entered the race, I’ve been reading his books and I am finding him more and more compelling. He is a fascinating guy with a lot more depth than many give him credit for.

This wouldn’t be a Trump/Anti-Trump discussion without some insults, so I hereby thumb my nose at you in disdain, Finny! :p


84 posted on 09/27/2015 9:32:14 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; Lopeover; entropy12; dforest; Hostage; CatherineofAragon; All
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”

Scott Pelley: Universal health care.

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

Tell me again how you know what you're voting for when you vote for him? That makes him such a "viable" choice?

85 posted on 09/28/2015 8:14:40 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; Lopeover; entropy12; dforest; Hostage; All
He AGREES IN PRINCIPLE with Obamacare. Very clearly. Cruz understand how blatant an assault on the Constitution that Obamacre is -- very clearly. They are two VERY different candidates and you only get to vote for one of them, and you don't get to vote "against" anybody at all.

I was just like you guys when I voted for Arnold the first go-around -- enthusiastic, hopeful, filled with blind faith and wishful thinking.

You know who came after Schwarzenegger's two terms?

JERRY BROWN. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown.

If you are willing to risk all on the crap shoot that is "The Donald," then you had better be willing to ponder the Democrat that will follow him. Whoever it is will make Obama look like Rush Limbaugh, because Trump will have relocated the "center" so much farther to the left.

Please put your emotions aside when analyzing Trump.

86 posted on 09/28/2015 8:21:30 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Finny

Tell me again what he means by that and maybe I’ll like it or get upset. That again is a very vague statement. I have no idea what he’s planning.

I have some things I HOPE he will plan with health care, but we’ll have to wait and see.


87 posted on 09/28/2015 8:31:29 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Finny
Please put your emotions aside when analyzing Trump.

Ditto.

88 posted on 09/28/2015 8:32:58 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Finny

Take me off your ping list.


89 posted on 09/28/2015 8:33:43 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Finny

Oh yeah, which he voted for Cornyn’s bill and TPA. Which did more damage.


90 posted on 09/28/2015 8:43:19 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Finny
I was just like you guys when I voted for Arnold the first go-around -- enthusiastic, hopeful, filled with blind faith and wishful thinking.

Ted Cruz has no path to the nomination. The people that run the GOP have stacked the deck against him. The press has also marginalized him and he doesn't have a big enough megaphone to speak directly to the people. He simply doesn't have what it takes to get it done.

So, Arnold got elected and became just like every other RINO politician once he got the job. This means what when it comes to Trump? Absolutely nothing. Did Arnold self-fund? Did Arnold have complete autonomy when it comes to the 'donor class'? No, he did not.

91 posted on 09/28/2015 8:48:52 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Finny

He’ll honor the deal.


92 posted on 09/28/2015 9:02:59 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Hostage; Finny
"Trump will come out with a health plan in due course and it will be in his words “fantastic” except to people like you who will be eating your words and hiding in shame."

Actually you should be hiding in shame for putting such blind, adoring trust in a human being based on nothing but empty words.

93 posted on 09/28/2015 10:29:05 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Finny
"Tell me again how you know what you're voting for when you vote for him? That makes him such a "viable" choice?"

Because he said some things.

94 posted on 09/28/2015 10:31:53 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Finny
Trump is desirable candidate because:

Pro life since at least 2011, wanted to ban partial birth abortion as far back as 2000.
Pro Traditional marriage. "Gay rights is not my thing."
Pro capital punishment "Capital punishment isn't uncivilized; murderers living is"
Hold Judges accountable
Opposes "Common core is a disaster" Teach citizenship, quit "dumbing down".
Anti education unions (2000)
For school choice
"Climate Change is a hoax"
"No Cap-and-Tax"
For drilling our own.
On Environment "Good development enhances the environment"
Stressed the importance of a strong family & culture of life (2015)
Supports Israel
Opposes Iran deal and letting Iran obtain the bomb.
Wants to crush ISIS quickly.
Wants a military so strong no one will challenge us.
Against unbalanced trade deals that kill American jobs.
Against warrant-less government surveillance of citizens.
Is against having a high national debt. Warns that $24T is a point of no return.
Against gun control
For assault weapon ban but says the AR-15 shouldn't be considered an assault weapon.
Wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with market driven polices and increased competition among insurance companies.
Wants to increase military spending.
Will close the border to illegals
Will send the criminals and sponges back.
Will deport all illegals but will let the hard working ones go through the legal process to come back.
Against Anchor babies
Knows unemployment is much higher than official stats.
Will bring jobs back through better trade negotiation.
Attended military academy and Wharton Business School.
Stood up for Birthers and challenged Obama on his fraud. Believes USA is "the greatest force for freedom the world has ever known"
Wants to honor commitments on Social Security and Medicare, which we can afford to do if he gets the economy going full steam.
Wants to reduce the fraud in disability and other programs.
Against marriage penalties in tax code.
Wants to simplify tax code with just 3 simple brackets.
Wants to reduce income taxes and eliminate corporate tax.
Wants to rebuld our infrastructure.
Wants to apply welfare-to-work to 76 other welfare programs (2011)
Doesn't have time for political correctness.
Not afraid to call out either party or both when they are wrong.
Not a puppet to rich campaign donors.

95 posted on 09/28/2015 11:51:34 AM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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To: entropy12

Correction — Trump is a desirable candidate to you because you believe his words rather than his actions.


96 posted on 09/28/2015 12:30:07 PM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Finny

You are making humor, right?

Who is all talk and no actions? The conservative politicians we helped elect in 2010 & 2014 now have majorities in both Senate & House.

Obamacare scrapped?
Illegals deported?
Wall built?
Abortion outlawed?
National debt reduced?

Where are the ACTIONS?

Trump has solid history of building real things, in the main street economy, always on schedule and under budget!
I will take that over the all talk no action career politicians.


97 posted on 09/28/2015 12:37:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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To: Shugee

NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, nuff sed!


98 posted on 09/29/2015 6:11:30 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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