Posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I'm shocked that he's shocked, and I do not mean that as a joke.
He is a professional. He is a focus-grouper and high consultant. I imagine he reads a lot of polls too, and probably runs some.
And yet he didn't know the anger brewing at the Establishment.
I am truly shocked.
No matter how low my estimations of our political class, they keep failing to meet my expectations.
I complained on Friday that the vaunted consultant class does not know the most elemental things about the "constituency" they're paid to advise clients about. I put "constituency" in quotes because it's quite plain they do not consider the actual grassroots voter as their constituency. In fact, they do not consider them at all.
I have previously said -- and I've said this a dozen times before, especially in the 2007 amnesty fight -- that the Establishment in DC, paid millions and feted as gurus of the political pulse of the nation -- knows far, far less than the base than the average low-level blogger who bothers to read his comments and talk with them.
By the way, of course: That's expressly the reason Andrew Breitbart read the comments, especially here. Well, one reason was that he simply enjoyed them. But the other reason, he told me, was to figure out where people, as a mass, were on issues, where their passion was, where they were going.
You would think that these well-paid consultants, claiming the ability to channel the sentiments of the party, would do this very most basic sort of research into the national mood.
It's all open source, @$$holes. You don't have to pay a dime to do what Breitbart used to, which is to use some program to suck up all comments into a file so he could read them when he didn't have the internet (on a plane, etc.)
But no -- High Guru Frank Luntz is shocked to the point of his legs shaking as the world reels beneath his feet to discover the grassroots really, really despises the Establishment, and no longer trusts them, and in fact considers them political enemies in the same way they consider the Democrats to be political enemies.
This is news to them.
Good work, @$$holes.
You're the Smart Ones, right? The "political elite" who employ all sorts of sophisticated and cunning techniques to divine the national mood, huh?
Did you ever think to ask them, Geniuses?
"You guys understand how significant this is?" Luntz asked the press breathlessly when he came back into the room behind the glass. "This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking."
"I want to put the Republican leadership behind this mirror and let them see. They need to wake up. They don’t realize how the grassroots have abandoned them," Luntz continued. "Donald Trump is punishment to a Republican elite that wasn't listening to their grassroots."
He's shocked to learn this! This is only said 50 times in any thread about Trump!
The group said Trump has their best interests in mind, while other Republicans are looking out for themselves. "We've got to show the Republicans that we've had it with them, that we will not be there every single time. They treat us like crap and they lie to us and promise us things and then they expect us to vote again," said a Republican woman....
Much of Trump’s support in the room seemed to stem from a weakness in the Republican party. The 2014 midterms did not usher in the conservative renaissance Republicans expected. Obamacare has still not been repealed, Congress is looking less likely to override a veto on the Iran deal, and there are still 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States.
The group of 29 went around the room, each supplying a single adjective for the legislative body that let them down after the 2014 elections. Congress "does nothing." It's "too old." "Useless." "Lame." "Inept." "Wrong party." "Cocktail party." "Gridlock." "Costly. "Sold out." "Sucks." "Douchebags."
The political class is useless and must be swept away, completely. Not only do they have an agenda contrary to most of the voters' interests, but even when it comes to the thing they're supposed to be good at, be experts at, they're totally incompetent and in fact absolutely pathetic.
I'll give Trump this much: He is right to call them "morons." They should be called what they are. They are failures, they are incompetent, and they're a disaster.
I'm sure they'll "hit all their numbers," though.
(VIDEO-AT-LINK)
Absolutely agree. We are at an 1850s moment where the go along-to get along Whigs were thrown out in favor of a new party that stood for something.
You might want to find another like of work kLutz.
Like, really.
You might want to find another like of work kLutz.
Like, really.
Agree, but also recently Cruz made some unwise votes in the Senate which didn’t help matters. I Love Cruz, but Trump is the one storming the castle.
The way I look at it if I had invested $25,000 in every deal Trump has made in the last 20 years Mr. GG2 and I would be cruising down the coast in our 48ft Sea Ray on the way to our private island in the keys.
Why not invest 2 votes in him for President? :-)
I have similar beliefs about the overthrow of the republican party, but instead, I believe there will be a complete purge of conservatives, resulting in a "republican party" similar to that of the 1970s dems, without the "Scoop Jackson" types.
However, I don't hold out any hope. I'm seriously considering doing just what the establishment republicans want, to "go Galt," at least as best I can. The fact that they couldn't get rid of Bonior and Mcconell after they did nothing about Obamacare and funded amnesty means they're completely useless and don't care about anything but their own power and positions.
Mark
...........you would think 5 trillion guns bought since 2008 might have given them a clue................
Here Frank lemme make it as plain as the fat nose on your face.
In the 2012 election, the GOPe said, get us CONgress and we will put an end to Obamacare. They got the House, could have defunded it and wimped out. Remember the closure of strategic parks and monuments Luntz? Huh?
So, as a result, they then said, we need the Senate also and we will put an end not only to Obamacare, but everything else he is trying to destroy. They got BOTH, the House and the Senate and guess what Luntz. Can you name one GD major issue these worthless, slimy crooks have done that they promised?
Apparently he isn’t really so interested in finding out how people think on issues as he is about making sure they think the way the establishment wants them to.
“Push” focus groups.
I’ve seen some freeper comments over and over on Trump not being a conservative and Trump gave money to democrats in the past... and just utter dislike for him... I considered these to be persons who did not see the dire situation this country is in.. and they were not as angry as I have become. I figured they could live with the same ole same ole.. and I knew I could not. Until Trump came along, I had resigned to this being the end of the U. S. Trump has given me hope and the GOP makes my support for Trump stronger with every nasty word they speak. Names they call him.. they are calling me the same. Yes, the anger is loud .. and if they didn’t know it, it’s their own fault. Their elite club is tumbling down.
From the Treehouse article
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/30/nothing-unites-special-interests-like-a-common-enemy/
“If the hierarchy within the republican party loses an election to Democrats it’s only a lost election; they are still there, and still comfortable even in the minority.
However, if the hierarchy within the republican party loses an election to Conservatives, they are out of a job.”
This is why I’m supporting Donald Trump. I don’t care if he’s not a conservative in the traditional mold. He’s the only one able at this point to stand up to them because he doesn’t NEED their money and support.
Given the fact that an oligarchy has been established where both sides are as bad as the other, our only chance to stop the destruction of the Republic is by him exposing and disabling the political machine being used against us.
How many more elections followed by broken promises can we survive before it becomes necessary to use the 3rd of the 3 “B” boxes?
Yes indeed.
I am not convinced Trump is a conservative yet. My choice at this point is Cruz.
But given the choice between Trump and the ilk like Bush I will pull the lever for Trump and never for Bush.
CLUELESS.
I'd written off the 'Pub party...I'd concluded I, not the Boehners, was the RINO. This may be one last chance to take the party for conservatives.
I was looking for a third party. Maybe that's not necessary.
” I will not vote rino again period.”
I have wrestled with this question. It seems like a good idea to vote for a RINO IF, and only IF, there is no conservative alternative and there is a strong Republican president in the WH. The strong Republican president can pull even the RINOs into line. As disgusted as I am with these RINOs, they could be led a little better than Democrats. It’s become clear in recent years Democrats are going to vote the party line.
This needs to happen, otherwise it is time for the less viable option, a new (conservative) party to replace the GOP.
Isn’t this the same clown who said we witnessed the collapse of Trump after the debate while Drudge was showing a huge win?
Pray America is waking
I just want the RINO gone. They are destroying our country and enslaving our children.
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