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Ted Cruz is right on the trade deal
The Examiner ^ | June 13, 2015 | J. Maropoulakis Denney

Posted on 06/13/2015 12:40:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

TPA, or similar a law, has existed for decades. The recent vote in the U.S. Senate was a renewal of the TPA, and Senator Ted Cruz, perhaps the foremost constitutional conservative in the Senate, supported it because it created a process in which the president could be held accountable. TPP was never voted on in the Senate or the House, and its language has not even been finalized.

My objection, at this point, to the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is that it is secret, and only members of congress are permitted to read it. Ted Cruz has read it, and has issues not only with the secrecy, but on other points that he intends to address in the Senate. He especially wants to insist that any trade agreement with any of our Pacific partners under the TPP will get an up or down vote in congress within 60 days.

Trade in the Pacific has become crucial, because the un-named elephant in the room is communist China, who wants to dominate the region. Some sort of TPP must be passed; there is more than free trade at stake here, national security is tied to this....

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TOPICS: Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
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To: InterceptPoint

I second your opinion.


21 posted on 06/13/2015 12:55:42 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's about keeping US citizens in the dark. A lot of us are at the point of saying that there are a lot of treaties that have cost US workers jobs, and the only concern right now should be fixing or revoking them. Besides that, even if it is good (I'm doubtful), Obama will abuse any new authority given to him.

US citizens are FINALLY up in arms about being undermined and replaced in the job market. I think it's way past asking us to "trust them" on things that the Republican elite support. When have they EVER been on our side, after election day?

Ted Cruz has got to understand that he can't keep our support if the way he gets things passed is by joining the ranks of Obama, McConnell, and Boehner. He's got to understand we were already questioning where he's at, because of his support of ever more H1B Visas. And once those things became issues, it has his wondering about the influences of his wife's GS connections. And how all this happened after his fund raising events with high-roller donors.

And please don't dismiss me. I'm one of those original contributors to his campaign because I thought he understood what we need to make the US great again. And Chapter 1 of that is US jobs for US workers.

22 posted on 06/13/2015 12:57:20 PM PDT by grania
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Multinational corporations are running the USA and have the politicians in their pocket.

That’s why the current Congress needs to be fired wholesale.

These SOB’s will never reform themselves, change will have to be forced from outside.

No member of Congress should be allowed to serve more than one term.

No lifetime appointments for the Judiciary either, 6 years and your out.

No federal pensions or employee unions.

The WASHINGTONIANS have sold the citizens of this country down the river.

Time for a Dictator to set things right.


23 posted on 06/13/2015 12:58:58 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Rome2000

Well you sort of had me going right up until you mentioned “a Dictator”.

:D

That we most assuredly, do not need.


24 posted on 06/13/2015 1:01:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ted Cruz is right on the trade deal

From the perspective of this White House, and the GOPe, and K Street, yeah.

Otherwise, not so much...

25 posted on 06/13/2015 1:01:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

TPA should be unconstitutional....the constitution clearly describes how agreements with other nations must be conducted.

But, to appease the corporatists, Congress decided to redefine trade deals with other nations as different from treaties with other nations.

The SCOTUS said that was fine and that Congress could give away it’s constitutional power.

Why is this happening?

Because treaties are difficult to get approved. You need 2/3 of the Senate. Well, that is just inconvenient to our purchased Congressmen....so, they usurp the.Constitution to appease their corporate masters.

If Ted Cruz really believed in the Constitution, he would oppose this with every fiber of his being.

The Founders intended such things to be difficult.

The TPA is to treaties what the nuclear option is to executive appointments.....the easy, lazy way out.


26 posted on 06/13/2015 1:08:14 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Not even Hell Toupee?


27 posted on 06/13/2015 1:08:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Amen.


28 posted on 06/13/2015 1:08:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s NOT right if only because of the secrecy involved. A deal made in secret deserves a “NO” vote regardless of what’s in it.


29 posted on 06/13/2015 1:09:25 PM PDT by babygene (.)
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To: grania
....."US citizens are FINALLY up in arms about being undermined and replaced in the job market"....

Well first of all this is nothing new...

Jobs have always been a political touch stone for decades....it doesn't matter what the reason the complaints never end.

Ted Cruz knows exactly what needs to be done as he campaigns and he also realizes how quick people knee jerk over candidates as they run....he cannot control that.

As I see it too many people on FR are acting like spoiled kids who want their candy now. Instead of waiting and watching how Cruz works in the campaign and the moves he's making that flush out the real liars along the way.

I'm embarrassed to refer anyone to FR with the way the people are acting on here toward Cruz....so I'm not doing so now until the "acid climate" changes here.

30 posted on 06/13/2015 1:09:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trade in the Pacific has become crucial, because the un-named elephant in the room is communist China, who wants to dominate the region. Some sort of TPP must be passed; there is more than free trade at stake here, national security is tied to this.

And how did the old paper dragon become the elephant in the room? Well, by US trade policies with China since the late '70s which have enriched and empowered China to become a threat to dominate the region.

And national security has been at stake since the late '70s when Deng Xiaoping visited Jimmy Carter and began to open trade with the US and set in motion the incredible transfer of US factories, technology and jobs from the US to China. Carter didn't just give away the Panama Canal.

Without that, communist China would be no threat to dominate anything.

Our policies in Asia over the years have weakened the US economically and weakened our national security, and the policies being debated now will only continue or speed up that trend.

The Asian model for growth followed by Japan, South Korea and China will be followed by the new TPP partners.

Lure US production to your Asian nation, gain maximum possible to the US market, allow minimal access to your market, and export, export, export to the US. A proven formula.

It's a mistake to give Obama fast track authority.

And the TPP would be a mistake.

Both will probably happen, just as all the mistakes trading with Asia have happened through the years.

And after about 60 years, our negotiating geniuses are still trying to open the Japan market to US rice. No free trade in rice with Japan.

31 posted on 06/13/2015 1:10:07 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Timber Rattler

no such thing as irreversible law IMO


32 posted on 06/13/2015 1:11:25 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Trade deal is a deal breaker with me.

Now I’m looking for another candidate.

Those are my thoughts.


33 posted on 06/13/2015 1:13:06 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: EternalVigilance

It is my understanding that a European trade deal that no Congressman or Senator can even look at (TISA) is inside TPA. How do we know that even more secret agreements aren’t under fast track. We don’t. Cruz sold this country out. Some things are forgivable, Treason never is.


34 posted on 06/13/2015 1:13:48 PM PDT by cowboyusa
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To: crusher2013

Mike Huckabee is a populist protectionist, at least this week. Go take a look.


35 posted on 06/13/2015 1:15:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: cowboyusa

How many of you were assigned to this site when it appeared that Mr. Obama would win the nomination? What does that pay? Good benefits?


36 posted on 06/13/2015 1:17:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good luck trying to Defend the Indefensible.


37 posted on 06/13/2015 1:20:14 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks for all your posts 2ndDivisionVet.

In regards to TPA and TPP, many Americans just don't trust the word of any politician let it be Obama or Ted Cruz. Take for example this quote from the article you posted:

“Nothing in the TPP can change American law, on immigration or any other issue, it is not a treaty, and cannot supercede statutory law.”

It is the unfortunate record of Congress and the President to ignore American law and the American Constitution in fact and in spirit. Why would Congress keep their word and show resolve in regards to disagreements with TPP?

Why does Ted Cruz think he will be anymore successful in stopping those things in TPP that he disagrees with? Have the Republicans been successful in stopping ObamaCare or Obama’s Executive Orders on Immigration. It seems Republicans say much and do little. Isn't that how they have behaved recently now and in the past?

38 posted on 06/13/2015 1:20:16 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lol, you’re getting mighty cryptic recently, in your posts.

What is this you are referring to please?

Hell Toupee? I presume you’re not attempting (however lamely) to insult Donald Trump?

He does not have a toupee.

Although I now do wonder about Ted Cruz’ ... “haircut”, if you understand my meaning.


39 posted on 06/13/2015 1:21:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: Will88
And if you go to the foreign press, they seem to have some very detailed information about the TPP negotiations.

U.S. agrees to let Japanese tariffs stand on rice, wheat

And it doesn't look like TPP will Japanese tariffs on US rice.

I've seen other details about the TPP negotiations in the foreign press. Now how are they learning details and it's so super-secret in the US?

40 posted on 06/13/2015 1:23:36 PM PDT by Will88
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