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Pennsylvania may undo Obama
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 5, 2012 | Sam Rohrer and Colin Hanna

Posted on 07/05/2012 4:40:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama-Biden campaign bus tour rolling through Pennsylvania this week, about four months before Election Day, illustrates that the road to re-election runs through the Keystone State.

Many political analysts believe that President Barack Obama cannot win without Pennsylvania, so it would seem self-evident that the state should get considerable attention from both campaigns in the upcoming election. Instead, Pennsylvania has been downgraded by some pundits and may have been dropped from the list of top-priority swing states by the Romney campaign.

We believe that's a mistake, and that Pennsylvania instead is poised to become the Ohio or Florida of 2012 -- the battlefield that decides the outcome of the presidential race.

A recently released Quinni- piac poll found Mr. Obama leading by a comfortable 6 points in a head-to-head matchup in Pennsylvania, while also showing that he has only a 46 percent job-approval rating. That's in the danger zone for any president seeking re-election, and the fact that it's exactly the same number as his support base suggests that he may not have much upward room in which to move.

Historically for presidents seeking a second term, the Gallup Presidential Approval Rating is more predictive than early head-to-head polling numbers, and not a single president has been reelected with an approval rating of less than 49 percent since Gallup began reporting that number in 1948 (Truman vs. Dewey). If that number gets any lower in Pennsylvania than its current 46 percent, Mr. Obama's vulnerability will be clearly documented, and Pennsylvania will fit any definition of a full-fledged swing state.

Those who suggest the GOP should cede the Keystone State to Mr. Obama are turning their backs on a real opportunity...

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Pennsylvania; Campaign News; Issues; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; economy; edrendell; obama; pennsylvania; polls; romney

1 posted on 07/05/2012 4:40:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We went down this road in 08. Obama will carry Pennsylvania.


2 posted on 07/05/2012 4:45:13 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney and his people better start going on the offense. Obama’s been attacking him left and right and Romney just takes it. Romney should have a field day on offense, but so far he’s looking wimpy.


3 posted on 07/05/2012 4:45:35 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ohio is the biggy. If he loses Ohio, he loses. If he wins Ohio...
4 posted on 07/05/2012 4:46:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: saganite

Especially with the Justice Department approved Black Panther, OWS, SEIU, International ANSWER, LaRaza, LULAC and ACORN poll watchers with revolvers, billy clubs and brick bats at every polling place.


5 posted on 07/05/2012 4:50:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: saganite

Totally!

PA will go for 0bama. Everyone should just count on it. The Republicans had best not go down that rabbit hole. Almost makes me wonder if some of these pollsters don’t make some states ‘look’ good, just long enough to get the Rs to waste time/money. You know the state party people on the ground wouldn’t admit it, because they like being part of the action, feeling like they might mean something to the outcome.


6 posted on 07/05/2012 4:54:08 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: kenmcg

Romney is a Gentleman Republican. As such, and as Dole and Senior Bush and Ford and McCain before him, he demands the honor of the Republican nomination but as for the election, well, he’d rather not actually have to be President. Republicans believe in their hearts that the Democrats are the natural Ruling Party and Republicans exist to help raise taxes for their programs and occasionally provide more efficient management for them.


7 posted on 07/05/2012 4:58:37 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Salena Zito

What say you?


8 posted on 07/05/2012 5:03:02 PM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: KoRn; saganite
New PA voter ID law in effect for November 2012: ALL voters will be required to show an unexpired photo ID before voting at a polling place.

PA is 82% white. I can understand the coal miner/factory worker voting for the traditional 1950s Democrat party, which is now the Republican party, but not why they'd vote for an out-of-the-closet homo-socialist party. Barky is no longer the blank canvas people can project whatever they want onto.

9 posted on 07/05/2012 5:16:53 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: tomkat

It sure would be suh-weet if this turned out to be true.


10 posted on 07/05/2012 5:18:18 PM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe Romney will carry Pennsylvania, but I don’t believe it will win it or Obama either way.


11 posted on 07/05/2012 5:18:49 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama will probably carry PA. They're right, 0’s toast if he doesn't.
12 posted on 07/05/2012 5:22:15 PM PDT by skully (06/28/2012 : The banner no longer yet waves....Gadsden DTOM)
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To: pallis

“...but I don’t believe it will win it or Obama either way.”

That doesn’t resemble what I meant to say...LOL.


13 posted on 07/05/2012 5:22:26 PM PDT by pallis
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To: saganite

Once again the Pennsylvania Democratic Party Machine attempts to sucker the GOP Presidential Campaign into wasting resources in Pennsylvania. If Obama were truly in danger of losing PA, then he would already have lost NC, OH and a bunch of other swing states. Either way Pennsylvania is academic.


14 posted on 07/05/2012 5:25:47 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

for Obama to lose PA, it would take a landslide. He will lose VA, NC, FL and OH before PA, and maybe CO.


15 posted on 07/05/2012 5:47:17 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had an automated poll call yesterday. My responses indicated I was a black female Democrat who was unhappy with Obama.


16 posted on 07/05/2012 5:54:31 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: arthurus
Republicans believe in their hearts that the Democrats are the natural Ruling Party ........

As the senate is the upper house and the house of representatives the lower house in congress, so is the Democrat Party the upper party and Republican Party the lower party in the political arena and each knows its place.

They are both branches of the same political crime syndicate, The Establishment!!!

17 posted on 07/05/2012 5:55:23 PM PDT by varon
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To: saganite

Exactly. You can’t fix stupid. No use wasting time and money in Pennsylvania. Let the ‘RATS do that. IMHO.


18 posted on 07/05/2012 6:19:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With Romney's financial backing it would be counter productive to ignore any state. At the very least he can force the obamanoids to dilute their own resources on a state they thought they had in the bag. The best case is, this early a six point deficit for the challenger means nothing. Objectively Pennsylvania has to be considered in play, even if a longer than 50/50 shot.
19 posted on 07/05/2012 6:21:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BS....ORamney will be the Pres Elect this year whether we want him or not. It has been preordained...and by none other than Soros himself. Choombama failed to advance this stage far enough and the powers that be know it...but the slow tic-tic-tic patience of the communist party knows they have made major headway.

They made some recent progress with Carter...more with Clinton and even some with the Bush clan. And some really, really major headway with the purple lipped price

Romney, being conservative lite (conservative void, actually) will do no harm to their agenda for the next four years...while the MSM bashes the Republican leadership to hell over that period of time, creating the environment for more one percenters (OWS) to bitch about come next election.

Stand by...we will think victory but have much, much work to do.

I'm all in!

20 posted on 07/05/2012 6:34:26 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: KoRn

Don’t count your chickens yet.....

we now have voter photo ID law and it is already in effect..the area I live in is a very depressed area...no jobs, outrageous gas prices and food prices...people here are angry and fed up with Hussein...


21 posted on 07/05/2012 6:34:32 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: haircutter

The “bitter clingers” of Pennsylvania will again lick obama’s boots and vote for him.


22 posted on 07/05/2012 6:38:43 PM PDT by Josa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Realistically, Obama will carry Pennsylvania barring a big change in the race. He’s polling well ahead of Romney already, the demographics there are in his favor (which is why he’s polling well ahead of Romney), and Romney’s not really going after it. Look at Ohio and Virginia instead.


23 posted on 07/05/2012 6:42:10 PM PDT by Sark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama would have lost PA in 2010.

PA elected a republican governor, republican senator, took over the state house/senate by large margins and elected republican state supreme court justices.

We now have voter ID law. Philly is quiet and has been cut free from the feeding tit of Harrisburg.

The idiot white guilt voters in the suburbs now do NOT find obama so kewl anymore.

Obama loses PA in November. If I am wrong, I will make an extra $100 donation to the Boy Scouts AND Free Republic.


24 posted on 07/05/2012 6:51:10 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Josa

I DON’T THINK SO...

watch us ROAR come November...


25 posted on 07/05/2012 6:53:56 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: saganite

Our Republican governor, congress and senate passed a voter id law. That should take at least some fraud out of this year’s election.


26 posted on 07/05/2012 7:00:02 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: saganite

Im not too sure obama will win pa


27 posted on 07/05/2012 7:00:54 PM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: Sark

I agree. PA is fool’s gold for the GOP. Total waste of time for the Romney team.


28 posted on 07/05/2012 7:01:34 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Reeses
The voter ID law was the "compromise" for not changing the electoral vote allocation system (2 for the statewide winner, 1 for the winner of each congressional district) when the GOP could have done so last fall.

We had solid majorities in both houses and a GOP governor committed to signing it into law if passed.

The main thing which stopped it was last minute arm twisting by GOP Chairman Rob Gleason who feared it would dilute his standing in the national party.

Ask yourself what kind of idiot throws away 10-16 electoral votes in any close election in exchange for all 20 in an occasional blow-out election where they wouldn't be needed anyway.

Gleason needs to be told by the GOP rank and file that he is gone if Pennsylvania fails to deliver 20 GOP electoral votes in an economy this week and a Democrat President this bad.

29 posted on 07/05/2012 7:05:27 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Fail! I told them I was a crippled, black, lesbian, native african, atheist female!


30 posted on 07/05/2012 7:37:58 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (I'll take over the Mormon over the Moron any day!)
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To: PapaBear3625

I sure hope that was an internal poll. Imagine more than a few of us messing with their heads...priceless.


31 posted on 07/05/2012 7:55:30 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: haircutter
we now have voter photo ID law and it is already in effect..the area I live in is a very depressed area...no jobs, outrageous gas prices and food prices...people here are angry and fed up with Hussein...

It's Pittsburgh & Phillie that are the concerns.

32 posted on 07/05/2012 8:02:05 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: 2banana
Obama loses PA in November. If I am wrong, I will make an extra $100 donation to the Boy Scouts AND Free Republic.

Agreed and I will do the same. Filthydelphia is still a problem. I hate watching the returns every election. They are always the last to be counted (we know why) and have 105% turnout. I don't think PA is a given for TOTUS this time around.
33 posted on 07/05/2012 8:20:18 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They say Romney is down 9 points in Ohio and fading. If he can’t take OH he sure can’t take PA.


34 posted on 07/05/2012 8:28:42 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

110% in Philadelphia and Allegheny county or whatever number is needed to disenfranchise the “T”.


35 posted on 07/05/2012 8:39:24 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: Digger
Joe Biden made a recent appearance at Pittsburgh's St. Patrick's Day parade. There was tension in the crowd. The Secret Service got freaked at some point and had the clown running down the street for his safety.


36 posted on 07/06/2012 3:50:10 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: haircutter

I hope you can come back in November and tell me “I told you so.”


37 posted on 07/06/2012 8:13:02 PM PDT by Josa
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To: Josa

I’ll make every effort to do so...


38 posted on 07/06/2012 9:58:12 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I keep seeing in all these states where the populace is really hurting and do not want to vote for Obama, is that Romney hasn’t provided voters with reasons to vote for him!


39 posted on 07/09/2012 2:56:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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