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Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front
Atlantic Wire via yahoo ^ | December 19, 2011 | Dashiell Bennet

Posted on 12/19/2011 8:38:13 AM PST by Grunthor

.....A new poll from Public Policy Polling shows that Ron Paul has taken the lead in the Iowa caucus race, while Newt Gingrich's support is fading fast. A different Gallup poll still shows Grinrich still holding the lead, but slipping, while The New York Times has Paul in the lead as well.

Gingrich has seen his numbers in the PPP poll drop from 27 percent to 14 percent in just three weeks, while his favorability rating is now split at 46 percent for to 47 percent against, the worst of any candidate not named Jon Huntsman. That's quite a fall for someone who looked to be running away with the state and taking charge on the national level.

Mitt Romney has also seen his tick up slightly, putting him just behind Paul for second place. The poll measured voters who are planning to vote in the Republican caucus.

Perhaps the most telling secondary question was, "Do you think Newt Gingrich has strong principles?" Only 36 percent say that he does, but for Paul that number was 73 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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Holy crap.....Romney or Paul?

ROMNEY OR PAUL??????

"Excuse me sir, would you prefer a broken arm or a broken leg?"

1 posted on 12/19/2011 8:38:28 AM PST by Grunthor
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To: Grunthor

The media - doing their dirty.


2 posted on 12/19/2011 8:40:46 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: Grunthor

People in IA are afraid of Newton Gingrich; he is considered unstable and might snuff out ethanol subsidies too. People in IA have always been so predictable; I would imagine that they have “heard” it is “Mitt’s turn” this time.


3 posted on 12/19/2011 8:40:52 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Grunthor
"while The New York Times has Paul in the lead as well".

A Big Clue!

4 posted on 12/19/2011 8:41:40 AM PST by classified
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To: Grunthor

The Atlantic Wire should be a little more responsible with their verbiage. In this context, “collapses” is a bit much.


5 posted on 12/19/2011 8:42:15 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Grunthor
Holy crap.....Romney or Paul?

ROMNEY OR PAUL??????

"Excuse me sir, would you prefer a broken arm or a broken leg?"

I know, Obama's probably praying toward Mecca a couple extra times a day, thanking Allah for his luck. If Romney (McCain v2.0) wins, he knows all he has to do is rerun the 2008 playbook. If Paul wins, then Obama doesn't even need to bother with a campaign, he can spend the entire campaign on vacation in Martha's Vineyard and still win.

6 posted on 12/19/2011 8:44:11 AM PST by apillar
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To: Grunthor
Settle down!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

This is a skewed Democrat poll, meant to see how badly they can stir up the Republican nomination. Look at the general method and the samplings taken. It's as bogus as Obama’s Birth Certificate.

7 posted on 12/19/2011 8:44:19 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Grunthor

God I hope not, but I would vote for Mittens before Paul. I would vote for Crazy Drunk Guy (tm) before Paul - the effect would be nearly the same but more entertaining.


8 posted on 12/19/2011 8:44:19 AM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Grunthor
To me, after watching the primary to this point, it appears to be a media hatchet job. The goal of the media, and this includes Faux News, is to destroy any conservative candidate and leave Mittens as the nominee in order to suppress conservative voting and guarantee four more years of juicy reporting as Obama continues the march towards socialism.

The problem with Paul is that his values are totally loony-tune.

9 posted on 12/19/2011 8:44:56 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: AzSteven

RP said Holder deserves to be fired and criminal charges brought over F & F, where is mittens on that?


10 posted on 12/19/2011 8:46:19 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: AzSteven

RP said Holder deserves to be fired and criminal charges brought over F & F, where is mittens on that?


11 posted on 12/19/2011 8:46:27 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Grunthor

False! Media instigated garbage. Don’t believe it.


12 posted on 12/19/2011 8:47:25 AM PST by Jukeman
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To: Grunthor

We all knew the lapdog media would run with this BS PPP poll. Obama wants to make the whole GOP look as fringe nuts as Paul. Obama fears the candidates from RINO to conservative in the GOP but has no fear of the crackpot Paul.


13 posted on 12/19/2011 8:47:45 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Grunthor

Newt’s numbers are down???

What a freakin’ surprise!

I mean, after 3 weeks of 1) media, 2) democrap, 3) primary opponents’ multimillion-dollar expenditures on attack ads, and 4) establishment republican full-frontal attacks — what a shock that his numbers have gone down.

I admire him for withstanding this amazing onslaught (if indeed he has).


14 posted on 12/19/2011 8:49:37 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Grunthor

Two simple rules:

1. If it’s a poll, just ignore it.
2. See rule #1 until the urge to post goes away


15 posted on 12/19/2011 8:49:43 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Redleg Duke

I heard Jamie Dupreee on the Neal Boortz show this morning saying there have been nonstop attack ads against Gingrich mainly from Ron Paul and Romney and Newt is not putting out his own ads to answer them. Erik Erikson from Red State is hosting today. He said Ron Paul is not going to win in Iowa due to the lack of caucuses. (Limbaugh said last week the attack ads were taking a toll on Gingrich and Romney was not moving but it was only helping Ron Paul and this was not what the establishment intended.)


16 posted on 12/19/2011 8:49:56 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: Grunthor

Paul has a strong ground game in Iowa and is pulling out all of the stops to run negative ads on Gingritch...all day every day. It appears to be working. This will end up helping Romney, particularly in New Hampshire.


17 posted on 12/19/2011 8:50:47 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Grunthor
If this poll is at all accurate then it finally settles the matter.

Iowa is too stupid/ignorant/out of touch/ unrepresentative/ drunk on ethanol/ whatever- to be an early primary State.

18 posted on 12/19/2011 8:51:43 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Grunthor

Pure Putrid Propaganda


19 posted on 12/19/2011 8:52:05 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Grunthor
The Democrats also have an organized effort to come out and vote for Paul on caucus night
20 posted on 12/19/2011 8:52:27 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Grunthor

Paul is easily the better candidate for social conservative issues and economic and fiscal issues.

On foreign policy, Paul is definitely not in the GOP mainstream to say the least, but I guess if the majority of freepers want mainstream GOP (neocon/strong Defense) foreign policy with huge government spending and liberal social ideals, Romney’s your guy.

I’d be happy to vote for Paul over both Gingrich and Romney in this context.


21 posted on 12/19/2011 8:57:44 AM PST by delapaz
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To: Grunthor

Polling in IA is a joke. This is a caucus state. If the candidates don’t motivate people out to the event, they won’t do squat.


22 posted on 12/19/2011 8:58:52 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: AzSteven

“I would vote for Crazy Drunk Guy (tm) before Paul”

Who is Crazy Drunk Guy? Can you post his picture?


23 posted on 12/19/2011 8:59:25 AM PST by ngat
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To: Grunthor

Lol...never saw this coming...lol.

You know what is being down to the conservatives?

They are being factionized purposely by their enemies.


24 posted on 12/19/2011 8:59:29 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Grunthor

It will be interesting to see how the PPP polls read on the eve of the voting in Iowa. This is a big test for them since they are clearly an outlier vis a vis other polls. Are they a propaganda engine supporting Romney/Obama (probably) or are they just giving us the facts about the mood in Iowa (unlikley IMHO).


25 posted on 12/19/2011 8:59:55 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: delapaz

I would prefer Perry myself. But lets face it, he’s not going anywhere. Santorum would be my second choice but...ditto.

Gingrich would be my third choice and he appears to be collapsing.

Neither Ron Paul nor Mitt Romney have been on my list. Ever.

But given that “choice” I’d probably have to vote for Paul and hope he had enough intelligence to pick a foreign policy hawk as VP because as acceptable as Paul might be on fiscal issues, his foreign policy could get a lot of innocent American civilians murdered.


26 posted on 12/19/2011 9:03:15 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Theodore R.
People in IA are afraid of Newton Gingrich; he is considered unstable and might snuff out ethanol subsidies too

Like Ron Paul would not cut susidies? I smell a rat in these polls.

27 posted on 12/19/2011 9:04:23 AM PST by plain talk
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To: HereInTheHeartland
The Democrats also have an organized effort to come out and vote for Paul on caucus night

Nobody but a democrat would vote for the surrender monkey. Only a democrat wants to see America destroyed anywhere close to as much as Cut and Run wants it destroyed.
28 posted on 12/19/2011 9:09:00 AM PST by John D
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To: delapaz

Ronny is a 9-11 truther who also blames the US for 9-11!
Ronny is fraud and the earmark king of congress and refused to sign the GOP ban on earmarks since he made a request for 134,000,000 in 2009 !
This crazy gets funding from code Pink and supports Iran getting the bomb.
He is Jew hater nut job !
You support this evil fraud !


29 posted on 12/19/2011 9:09:09 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Grunthor
Jeez. Are the spoiled, pampered voters of Iowa paying attention at all? Have they not heard what Paul has said about Iran--just for starters? Or do they just like the fact that he and his Paulbots knock on a lot of doors?


30 posted on 12/19/2011 9:11:01 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: Grunthor
Insider Advantage has Perry at 16% today, Romney at 18% and Newt at 13%. Paul leads in low 20's.

This is their latest poll for Iowa. Perry is surging, Newt and Romney are falling.

Perry is going to not only stop Mitt but Paul too. Thank your Lord!

31 posted on 12/19/2011 9:12:28 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Grunthor
Frankly, I think the Ron Paul surge is pure media


32 posted on 12/19/2011 9:14:30 AM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Grunthor
Paul is also cleaning up 35-14 with the 24% of voters who identify as either Democrats or independents. Romney is actually ahead 22-19 with GOP voters. Young people and non-Republicans are an unusual coalition to hang your hat on in Iowa, and it will be interesting to see if Paul can actually pull it off.

Paul's a lib. Get out of the Republican race Paul. You're wasting our time.

33 posted on 12/19/2011 9:15:49 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: normy

If Perry wins Iowa (I have my doubts) then I will get get on board. Right now I am not actively supporting any of these candidates.


34 posted on 12/19/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Grunthor
I looked at the internals. Perry has picked up support from men and Indy's. He does the worst with Dems. Paul and Romney do best with Dems and Paul does best with Indy's.

Paul 24, Romney 18, Perry 16, Bachmann 10, Santorum 3.

The cross state bus tour is working.

35 posted on 12/19/2011 9:19:47 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: sodpoodle

Any “scientific” poll with Ron Paul as the leader is bullsh!t.


36 posted on 12/19/2011 9:20:32 AM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: All

Another poll just released confirms PPP.

Paul 24
Romney 18
Perry 16
Gingrich 13
Bachmann 10
Huntsman 4
Santorum 3

Interestingly, it shows a Perry surge and jeeps Santorum well down.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html


37 posted on 12/19/2011 9:24:27 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Grunthor

This is a satire post right..


38 posted on 12/19/2011 9:27:08 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Grunthor
Polls give off false views....[snip] The bad news for Paul, however, is that when asked for their second choice for President, only 9% said they would vote for him after their preferred candidate. That means if supporters of any of the second-tier candidates sense defeat and decided to abandon their choice at the last minute, those votes are more likely to go to Romney. Even if Romney doesn't win, the stronger than expected showing could be the snowball that starts a primary avalanche for him.

The MSM wants someone like Paul to take the lead knowing that he can't best Obama...he is not a street fighter like the Chicago Politician Obama. Gingrich is and can out think Obama...Romney is on the same level as Obama...would any Republican take 2 AF1&2 to Hawaii? Costing the American taxpayer $$$$ we can ill afford - the answer is NO! Only the Obama's live like the nouveau riche they are.

STAY FOCUSED............

39 posted on 12/19/2011 9:27:08 AM PST by yoe
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Sadly....no.


40 posted on 12/19/2011 9:30:00 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: Grunthor

I’m not buying this B/S.


41 posted on 12/19/2011 9:34:08 AM PST by mmanager (Reagan Revolution + Republican Revolution = Bury Obama in 2012 - Go Newt!)
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To: Grunthor
Ron Paul will win in Iowa ... then in 6 weeks he will be out of the race.
42 posted on 12/19/2011 9:34:23 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Grunthor

“Collapses” based solely on one poll from a firm co-founded by DailyKos’ Markos Moulitsas? Uh, thanks but I’ll wait for a few more before believing it.


43 posted on 12/19/2011 9:35:26 AM PST by montag813
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To: Grunthor
I’d probably have to vote for Paul...

I'll just stay home, then. Paul is a 9/11 "Truther." The chance he'll have a hawkish foriegn policy is nil.

44 posted on 12/19/2011 9:37:13 AM PST by jboot
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

That’s rather fishy. One of the Iowa polls actually had Gingrich dropping 50% in just one week. There is something going on behind the scenes. It’s there if you are looking for it, but unfortunately most people don’t look beyond the first paragraph.


45 posted on 12/19/2011 9:40:22 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Grunthor

With Romney and Paul out of question and with Newt on the bubble, 2012 is looking just as bad as 2008.

YUCK!


46 posted on 12/19/2011 9:42:05 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Grunthor

It’s early, so in my opinion you should vote for your IDEAL (policy-wise) candidate, not concerned about “electability” yet.

By the time we poor, trapped Californians get to vote in June, though, OUR vote likely won’t mean much.

Still pulling for a resurgent Perry, m’self.


47 posted on 12/19/2011 9:44:21 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Grunthor

Must be a lot of potheads in Iowa?


48 posted on 12/19/2011 9:50:15 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: jboot

Paul is not a truther. Stop lying - he simply repeated what was in the 911 commission findings.


49 posted on 12/19/2011 9:53:08 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Theodore R.
and might snuff out ethanol subsidies too. People in IA have always been so predictable...////
BINGO!, we got a winner!

50 posted on 12/19/2011 9:54:50 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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