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Are Aliens Real? Do UFOs Exist? Astrophysicist Reveals Why These Things Aren’t What They Seem, and Can Seem So ‘Terrifying’
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 8/23 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 09/27/2023 1:13:10 AM PDT by spirited irish

Are aliens real? Do UFOs really exist? These questions, once relegated to the confines of conspiratorial enterprises, are now legitimately being pondered among some scientists, academics — and even in the halls of Congress.

It’s an issue Dr. Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist and apologist, has long researched and explored.

“I became a UFO expert, but not on purpose,” he recently told “Billy Hallowell’s Playing With Fire.” “I was an amateur astronomer before I became a professional astronomer.”

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotandliberty.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; demons; moonbat; spacebrothers; ufos; wrongforum
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To: weezel

“In all the vastness of space I can see no way that we are the only ones.”

I can agree with you in a theoretical sense, however, the same calculus that leads you to conclude that we cant be alone, should also lead you to be skeptical that extraterrestrials could never find us even if they exist, and even if they could, they could never get here.

So my agreement with you is limited on that sense.

Corollary to this is the conclusion that if, indeed, it is proven that extraterrestrials exist on earth, that life is exceedingly common, and beyond that advanced technologically superior is also common.


41 posted on 09/27/2023 6:08:59 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Tom Tetroxide

“How can you be an expert on UFOs if you have never been to Area 51 to examine them up close or fly one or even try to understand how it flies? He’s an expert on nothing.”

He explained. Obviously observed things that could never be explained. Just as I have.

“I was an amateur astronomer before I became a professional astronomer.”


42 posted on 09/27/2023 6:09:49 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: TheWriterTX

I guess it all boils down to who you have faith in.

I’m not sure I would trust either one of those.


43 posted on 09/27/2023 6:22:42 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: spirited irish

Aliens ARE demons...

...just after computers were becoming popular a UFO researcher was collating many written reports from past researchers.

He soon uncovered a unreported phenomena. That is, abductees, scared out of their wits that pleaded to Jesus for deliverance were delivered.

Even if they were already on a supposed alien craft they were delivered safely back to their beds or wherever. The researcher concluded that maybe, these so-called aliens could be demonic in origin.

This info was out there but underreported, the ‘experts’ didn’t know what to make of it.


44 posted on 09/27/2023 6:23:09 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: Jonty30
Okay, but that's quite far from establishing a scriptural precedence in support of "The rest of the universe watches the happenings on earth, but I do not believe they are involved in our dealings."

If that's what you believe, fine. As for me, I don't know that I can make such assumptions without it impacting my belief in the sovereignty of our Triune God.

45 posted on 09/27/2023 6:34:19 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: TheWriterTX

Another argument for God NOT creating life on other planets is this...

In the bible, we see that at the end of the millennial reign of Jesus, a final bout with Satan ensues, followed by the heavens and the earth being completely destroyed and re-created.

1. There is no biblical reference to life on other planets

2. If there were, God would be wiping them out as well when the heavens and earth are destroyed in favor of His newly created universe... roughly 1007 years from now.


46 posted on 09/27/2023 6:47:40 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Jonty30

“I don’t believe they are allowed to involve themselves on our planet”

Tell it to these folks:

https://podbay.fm/p/aliens-and-artists

Lol.


47 posted on 09/27/2023 6:48:15 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Jonty30

“I don’t think God would allow us to know other beings, beyond our planet, because we cannot know what we are dealing with.”

Well God did design the universe with stars placed so far apart that it makes interstellar travel improbable except by probes. “keep ‘em separated”.


48 posted on 09/27/2023 6:49:04 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: RoosterRedux; Jonty30

I agree with both of you.

I think that the alien manifestations are actually demonic manifestations.

Satan can even appear as an angel of light. If some being that intrinsically evil can appear so benevolent and good, then there is not other form for the demonic to take that is off the table.


49 posted on 09/27/2023 6:51:24 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom
Satan can even appear as an angel of light.

The origin of the name Lucifer.

50 posted on 09/27/2023 6:57:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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To: metmom
Satan can even appear as an angel of light.

The origin of the name Lucifer.

51 posted on 09/27/2023 7:03:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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To: Jonty30
The rest of the universe watches the happenings on earth, .

There is Scriptural support for that.

Romans 8:19-23For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.

However, they are involved with our dealings.

Demonic activity is very real and angels are ministering spirits sent to minister to those who are to inherit salvation.

Hebrews 1:14Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

52 posted on 09/27/2023 7:07:32 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: unread

Thank-you!


53 posted on 09/27/2023 7:08:55 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: metmom; Jonty30
Yep.

Some of the people who claimed to have been abducted say that they sometimes get the sense that their minds are being manipulated to see beings that appear as gray aliens, trolls, and/or even leprechaun-like creatures.

These beings may even be material/physical...just not what they "seem" to be.

Keep in mind that this is only a "sense" that the abductees get. They are quite unsure of the entire experience (i.e., is it a real experience, a vision, or even a combination of both?).

Caveat: I am keeping an open mind on this entire phenomenon until some good evidence starts coming in. But, based on the vast number of anecdotal accounts, the odds lean very heavily in the direction of "demons" or spiritual beings of an evil kind.

54 posted on 09/27/2023 7:09:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I see no other reason to conclude anything else.


55 posted on 09/27/2023 7:10:57 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: plain talk
Well God did design the universe with stars placed so far apart that it makes interstellar travel improbable except by probes. “keep ‘em separated”.

True, but correlation does not necessarily mean causation (i.e., stars may have been placed far apart for other unrelated reasons--unrelated, that is to "keep 'em separated" re: travel).

56 posted on 09/27/2023 7:13:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: metmom
Probably correct. It's just that I'm keeping my jury out until I learn more about it.

I used to make mistakes from time to time by rushing to judgment. Hence, I've gotten into the "wait and see" habit.;-)

57 posted on 09/27/2023 7:17:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Demons are preternatural beings and not of this world. That is why they turn to possession as a way to enter our realm and wreak havoc here.


58 posted on 09/27/2023 9:02:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Angels are not of this world but were physical enough to have a meal with Abraham and Sarah and with Lot.


59 posted on 09/27/2023 9:14:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Rockingham
As an aside, some abductees have suggested that the "grays" are a kind of biological automaton, possibly created to interact with humans. And that the ones in charge are the praying mantis-looking figures that lurk in the background and have only been seen out of the corner of eyes.

It is odd that the praying mantis figures are always seen wearing hooded robes.

Again, this is all anecdotal stuff. Take it for what it's worth.

60 posted on 09/27/2023 9:31:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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