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Are Aliens Real? Do UFOs Exist? Astrophysicist Reveals Why These Things Aren’t What They Seem, and Can Seem So ‘Terrifying’
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 8/23 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 09/27/2023 1:13:10 AM PDT by spirited irish

Are aliens real? Do UFOs really exist? These questions, once relegated to the confines of conspiratorial enterprises, are now legitimately being pondered among some scientists, academics — and even in the halls of Congress.

It’s an issue Dr. Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist and apologist, has long researched and explored.

“I became a UFO expert, but not on purpose,” he recently told “Billy Hallowell’s Playing With Fire.” “I was an amateur astronomer before I became a professional astronomer.”

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TOPICS: Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; demons; moonbat; spacebrothers; ufos; wrongforum
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To: Rockingham

If demons can assume human form or their former angelic identity, there is no reason to believe that they cannot assume alien forms.

I do look forward to the day when we can gallivant (word for the day) the universe. It will be fun.


21 posted on 09/27/2023 3:48:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: Sirius Lee

If they look Nordic, marry them of course.


22 posted on 09/27/2023 3:49:09 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: spirited irish
Hugh Ross, as an astronomer (postdoctoral work at Cal-Tech) and evangelist, is in an excellent position to comment on the nexus of UFOs and the occult.

And there does seem to be a very noticeable connection.

Those of us who have read the abduction accounts of people who have been interviewed by Dr. John Mack, Budd Hopkins, and Prof. David Jacobs will note that rarely is an abductee a Christian...even in name only. They are often involved in the occult. This is particularly strange given that abductions run in multi-generations of the same family.

Some people who have publically discussed their so-called alien "interactions" have spoken about their occult and Luciferian leanings (former CIA officer John Ramirez and former Navy cryptologist Matthew Roberts).

Let me add that the Christian view of the demonic may be narrower than what is being encountered. Our views of the demonic have been defined by books and movies. The beings described by abductees like Whitley Strieber are not so apparently evil. They come across as enigmatic--sometimes pretending to be friendly, at other times seeming to be cold and indifferent. That said, Strieber has noted time and time again that the "beings" have a destructive and dangerous aspect when humans react to them with hostility.

Caveat: I'm just reporting what so-called abductees have said. For all I know, these people are victims of some kind of mass hallucination. But whatever the case, there are so MANY abduction and interaction accounts and these accounts are so similar, it is reasonable to consider that something very real is happening to them.

23 posted on 09/27/2023 4:02:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Jonty30

A reasoned response.

I understand and respect your point of view.


24 posted on 09/27/2023 4:04:59 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: Jonty30
If demons can assume human form or their former angelic identity, there is no reason to believe that they cannot assume alien forms.

And given the fact that demons are, by their very nature, liars, there is no reason to believe they wouldn't lie about their identity.

It is worth noting that a couple of related characteristics about these so-called aliens are reported time and time again by "abductees."

They are liars and tricksters.

25 posted on 09/27/2023 4:08:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Jonty30

Demonic entities may briefly induce people to falsely see a human image or they may possess a human (or alien) body, but they cannot assume and sustain the pretense of actually being human or alien. That is part of why Satan and demons hate humans, who are graced with material bodies and immortal souls endowed with free will.


26 posted on 09/27/2023 4:08:18 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
they cannot assume and sustain the pretense of actually being human or alien.

Says who?

27 posted on 09/27/2023 4:21:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: DoodleBob

28 posted on 09/27/2023 4:26:23 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: spirited irish; All
It is refreshing to read a post and thread with multiple comments, and not one (so far) nasty comment or personal attack.

🙂👍


29 posted on 09/27/2023 4:39:34 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: spirited irish

In all the vastness of space I can see no way that we are the only ones.


30 posted on 09/27/2023 4:57:45 AM PDT by weezel
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To: RoosterRedux
Hindu god-men are very familiar the beings "described by abductees like Whitley Strieber are not so apparently evil. They come across as enigmatic--sometimes pretending to be friendly, at other times seeming to be cold and indifferent"

Of course god-men don't refer to these beings as extraterrestrials but gods and goddesses. Toward them the gods adopt a pretense of friendliness at times, at others, they terrify and cruelly punish their worshippers. And then there are the beings who pretend to be Hindu demons. Both groups however, are fallen angels.

31 posted on 09/27/2023 5:18:56 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: weezel; Jonty30; RoosterRedux; All
In all the vastness of space I can see no way that we are the only ones.

Buy a copy of Gary Bates, "Alien Intrusion." Amazon's overview says this:

"When actor Richard Dreyfus gazed up into the heavens during the hit film, Close Encounters of the Third Kind audiences looked with him, in rapt attention. Alien encounters cropped up like, well, crop circles. More films were released. Books detailed alleged abductions. NASA funded SETI, an effort to make contact with civilizations from other worlds. But is all this valid? Are there really alien civilizations in our vast universe? In Alien Intrusion, Gary Bates gives a thorough treatment of this fascinating subject. What is behind the numerous sightings from around the world? Does the U.S. Government have evidence of alien craft? Can we hope to make contact in our lifetime? The author comes from an unapologetic Christian perspective, but lets the facts speak for themselves. His expertise on the subject and ability to 'cover the bases' has earned widespread respect - even from many in the 'UFOlogy community' who may be uncomfortable with the startling conclusions to which he inevitable leads the reader. This was especially evident during an amazing three-hour interview with George Noory on Coast to Coast. This invaluable book will help Christians understand the issues, and be able to intelligently answer questions and engage in dialogue with a culture sure were are being watched from space. Heavily illustrated with photographs and drawings - an amazingly comprehensive 'cutting-edge' look at the UFO abduction phenomena"

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32 posted on 09/27/2023 5:23:28 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

“I became a UFO expert, but not on purpose,”

How can you be an expert on UFOs if you have never been to Area 51 to examine them up close or fly one or even try to understand how it flies? He’s an expert on nothing.


33 posted on 09/27/2023 5:32:33 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: spirited irish

I like this website.. :)

https://patriotandliberty.com/


34 posted on 09/27/2023 5:38:26 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: spirited irish

I’ve watched Gary Bates in numerous video interviews and he is always impressive. I wish his book, “Alien Intrusion,” was out in Audible. I have gotten hooked on reading with my eyes closed.;-)


35 posted on 09/27/2023 5:42:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: spirited irish
Are aliens real? Extremely likely, somewhere in the universe.

Are UFO's real? Also extremely likely, somewhere in the universe.

Have aliens visited earth? Extremely unlikely - as in, probability so close to zero as to effectively BE zero. The universe is big, REALLY big.

Here's a question for all the "aliens have visited earth" crowd:

Today, almost everyone in any relatively developed country carries a phone with a very good camera, capable of shooting extremely clear photos and videos. Why then, has no one ever captured a single decent photo or video of an alien or an alien craft? Same goes for Bigfoot, Yeti, etc.

Because they have never been here (aliens), and because they don't exist (Bigfoot, Yeti).

36 posted on 09/27/2023 5:52:14 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: TheWriterTX

“Angels and demons aren’t even from our realm, yet both are in the Bible.”

“There is nothing to suggest that He hasn’t created life elsewhere.”

Exactly right. The bible has been telling us about this multi-dimension reality for a long time. By different labels every ancient oral and written tradition has been telling us about them since the beginning.

They are the star people, the gods, the demigods, the watchers, the shining ones, the shape shifters, the fallen, The Nephilim, the Angels, and the demons.

And they are all from a different origin, dimension, and realm.


37 posted on 09/27/2023 5:56:38 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: TheWriterTX

>>> There is nothing to suggest that He hasn’t created life elsewhere.

One of the biggest arguments FOR the existence of God, is simply the existence of LIFE as we see it here on earth.

This is what the bible gives us as the reason that nobody will have an excuse.

It is reasonable to assume that if Life exists here on earth, then it could also exist elsewhere as God wills.

However, One would think that if this were true, then scientists, who are able to use light waves to learn about conditions on other planets light years away, would have found some by now... but they have not.

What they HAVE found is just how UNIQUE and fragile conditions for life really are on this planet. They have yet to find another planet capable of supporting it... because so many variables are involved that have to be absolutely PERFECT in order for life to thrive... leaving little doubt that the earth is here BY DESIGN and INTENT.

One might ask God... “Why so many planets without the ability to support life?”

And He might say... “So you will KNOW that I am God.”


38 posted on 09/27/2023 5:57:40 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

According to SETI, they have identified 700 planets in the habitable zone.

NASA estimates 40,000.


39 posted on 09/27/2023 6:01:32 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: Oberon

“What’s the scriptural support for that premise”

The watchers, the shining ones, the cherubim, the angels and the demons. They are found throughout the bible and all religious works by other labels.


40 posted on 09/27/2023 6:02:11 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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