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Francis in his own words: There was no 'multiplication' of loaves: it was just 'sharing'.
Rorate Caeli ^
| June 25, 2019
| New Catholic
Posted on 06/25/2019 3:55:18 PM PDT by ebb tide
Francis in his own words: There was no 'multiplication' of loaves: it was just 'sharing'.
In his own words:
Surprisingly, the account of the multiplication of the loaves does not mention the multiplication itself. On the contrary, the words that stand out are: break, give and distribute (cf. Lk 9:16). In effect, the emphasis is not on the multiplication but the act of sharing. This is important. Jesus does not perform a magic trick; he does not change five loaves into five thousand and then to announce: There! Distribute them! No. Jesus first prays, then blesses the five loaves and begins to break them, trusting in the Father. And those five loaves never run out. This is no magic trick; it is an act of trust in God and his providence.
Francis
Rome, June 23, 2019
On the other hand:
Having reached this point, Venerable Brethren, we have sufficient material in hand to enable us to see the relations which Modernists establish between faith and science, including history also under the name of science. And in the first place it is to be held that the object of the one is quite extraneous to and separate from the object of the other. For faith occupies itself solely with something which science declares to be unknowable for it. Hence each has a separate field assigned to it: science is entirely concerned with the reality of phenomena, into which faith does not enter at all; faith on the contrary concerns itself with the divine reality which is entirely unknown to science. Thus the conclusion is reached that there can never be any dissension between faith and science, for if each keeps on its own ground they can never meet and therefore never be in contradiction. And if it be objected that in the visible world there are some things which appertain to faith, such as the human life of Christ, the Modernists reply by denying this. For though such things come within the category of phenomena, still in as far as they are lived by faith and in the way already described have been by faith transfigured and disfigured, they have been removed from the world of sense and translated to become material for the divine. Hence should it be further asked whether Christ has wrought real miracles, and made real prophecies, whether He rose truly from the dead and ascended into heaven, the answer of agnostic science will be in the negative and the answer of faith in the affirmative - yet there will not be, on that account, any conflict between them. For it will be denied by the philosopher as philosopher, speaking to philosophers and considering Christ only in His historical reality; and it will be affirmed by the speaker, speaking to believers and considering the life of Christ as lived again by the faith and in the faith.
Saint Pius X
Pascendi
September 8, 1907
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
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[16] And taking the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed them; and he broke, and distributed to his disciples, to set before the multitude. [17] And they did all eat, and were filled. And there were taken up of fragments that remained to them, twelve baskets.
Francis commonly parses the Gospel to promote his socialist agenda of "sharing".
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posted on
06/25/2019 3:55:18 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
To: terycarl; FourtySeven; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; ...
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posted on
06/25/2019 3:57:11 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
Lord, if this is our punishment, then I can only accept it with contrition. But I will not follow that scumbag into heresy.
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posted on
06/25/2019 3:57:57 PM PDT
by
dsc
(Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
To: ebb tide
This wasn’t as bad as I expected. I have heard it preached that the women brought loaves for the children and Jesus got them to share.
This at least had Jesus sharing the same five loaves.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:02:39 PM PDT
by
Hieronymus
("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
To: ebb tide
I wonder what his honest opinion of the resurrection is.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:03:44 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: ebb tide
Who to believe: This communist blasphemer? Or the Word of God?
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:04:01 PM PDT
by
lgjhn23
(It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
To: ebb tide
I’ve heard this before - That what happened was people there began taking out their own food and sharing it, which is how everyone got fed.
I hadn’t heard it in a socialist context, but in one where the proponent of this idea didn’t believe in miracles.
It’s interesting to note that, yes, this is a very socialist fairy tale. That there’d be enough for everyone if the haves decided to share with the have-nots.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:05:05 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: dsc
But I will not follow that scumbag into heresy.
- - - -
Good choice!
This appears to be the test of our time: Hold fast to what you were taught when you first believed, or follow “false prophets” or “false teachers” down the road to Perdition!
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:07:12 PM PDT
by
SubMareener
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To: ebb tide
no ‘multiplication,’ eh?
well,
if five loaves and two fishes (without something more) really “filled the multitude”....
my diet doctor will want to know about this!
it is, in and of itself, a miracle!
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:10:06 PM PDT
by
faithhopecharity
( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
To: ebb tide
The first Islamic pope has spoken.
To: ebb tide
Is this ‘Pope’ Christian?
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:14:24 PM PDT
by
A strike
(import third world. become third world)
To: ebb tide
This is commonly referred to as Denying Christ.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:20:02 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: A strike
The problem is most folks don’t read their Bibles. They’d rather take the tall tales from old farts like Bergolio than the Divine Holy Scriptures.
Matthew 14:15-21
15 As evening approached, the disciples came to him and said, This is a remote place, and its already getting late. Send the crowds away, so they can go to the villages and buy themselves some food.
16 Jesus replied, They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat.
17 We have here only five loaves of bread and two fish, they answered.
18 Bring them here to me, he said. 19 And he directed the people to sit down on the grass. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. 20 They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 21 The number of those who ate was about five thousand men, besides women and children.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:20:43 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: SoConPubbie
His statement is Anti-Christ IMO...
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:21:16 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: ebb tide
Frankie Baby...those 2 fish and 5 loaves wouldn’t have gone far between 5,000 men and their wives and children...
But I guess you meant “share” them amongst the illegal aliens and ignore the needs of the locals...
To: antidemoncrat
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:26:03 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: ebb tide
He has used similar language to promote a non-miraculous "demythologized" interpretation of the creation account in Genesis:
"When we read about creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so. . .He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment.":
Pope Francis says evolution is real and God is no wizard
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:26:53 PM PDT
by
Fedora
To: Secret Agent Man
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:28:20 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: ebb tide
Ebb, If I’m not mistaken, didn’t he give a similar heretical speech at least a few years ago?
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:28:47 PM PDT
by
piusv
To: ebb tide
Well. Communists are materialists not especially interested in miracles so there’s that.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:31:16 PM PDT
by
Pelham
(Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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