Posted on 01/20/2018 9:22:33 AM PST by tiredofallofit
I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light...
Do these words sound familiar? I hope they do. These words, which have been recited in liturgy, at church councils, in battles, and at dinner tables in hundreds of languages, echo to us today through nearly 17 centuries of continual use. This creed is what has united the church (except perhaps in 1054 when it greatly divided the church) and has helped to defend it against all manner of heresies and attacks.
Sadly, I had never heard of this creed until I was in my late 20’s. In the church I grew up in, creeds were never recited; they were considered to be extra-Biblical and therefore highly suspect. Or maybe people just didn’t know about them. Prayer in our church was usually a long drawn out speech of varying eloquence depending on who was delivering it. Prayer was supposed to be spontaneous and elevated, not scripted and repetitious. To have recited a creed would have meant introducing a form of liturgy into our midst which would have taken us “dangerously” close to Catholicism. After all, the word “catholic” is contained in the creed, right? More on that another time.
And so I missed out on this beautiful tradition which if one looks at closely, is derived directly from Scripture. I believe that this creed, which is only outdated by the Apostles Creed (another creed that I never heard when I was young) should be front and center in every church. It should be inscribed on walls and memorized in Sunday School.
(Excerpt) Read more at runningawayfrommychurch.com ...
Should be said (or sung) every Sunday. A concise accurate statement of orthodox Christianity.
Hear hear!
Ping
I believe in God,
the Father almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord
(At the words that follow up and including "the Virgin Mary," all bow.) who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
From there he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic Church,
the Communion of Saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.
Amen.
I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Come to the Catholic Church and you will hear and say either The Apostles Creed or the Nicene Creed.
“Do the Creeds Still Matter?”.......
That question needs to be directed at politicians.
In the Book of Concord of 1580, which contains the Lutheran Confessions, the first three confessions are: the Apostles Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the the Athanasian Creed. The next confession thereafter is the Augsburg Confession of 1530. Martin Luther and the reformers were very careful to join themselves unequivocally to the faith (objective, i.e., doctrine) of the apostolic church. The reformation they authored was a conservative one, with its purpose being to conserve everything of the past that was fully in accord with the Holy Scriptures, which are the very word of God, authoritative and inerrant. Other reformers which came a little later were the authors of the radical reformation, which, as the adjective indicates, was a tearing up by the roots of the doctrines and practices of the earlier church. This is the strain of reformation that saw little or no value in the creeds.
We all agree that Mary was a virgin the time Christ was born. What is missing from the creed that I’m sure you would like to add is the ever virgin sinless queen of heaven. That stuff that Catholics made up later is rightly missing from the early creeds of orthodox Christianity.
Actually that is not the Nicene Creed. It is the Roman Catholic creed of the Council of Lyons (1274). The Nicene Creed does not contain the Filioque.
People don’t treat Scripture any better, so it’s no surprise.
Now that Scripture is widely and freely available to almost anyone, whether they can read of not because so much of it is on audio, the original purpose for them is no longer a factor.
People would be better off memorizing Scripture than creeds.
Are you calling Catholics liars?
It may be different from what you say, but it is still the Nicene Creed that solved many problems, including the one you mention.
I am making a statement of fact. The creed recited by most Catholics is not the creed approved by the Fathers of the Holy Councils of Nicea & Constantinople. Words matter. “Filioque” radically alters the Trinitarian theology of the Creed. by creating a double procession of the Holy Spirit. From the Orthodox perspective, it is heretical.
https://aleteia.org/2013/10/10/a-protestant-defense-of-marys-perpetual-virginity/
Augustine, Jerome, etc.
Not in the creeds. Not necessary
The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed as chanted in the Divine Liturgy.
Thanks for sharing this beautifully done singing of the “Apostles” Creed link! When you go to the youtube you will see more hymns sung!
I understand where you are coming from, but I don’t believe the Nicene Creed is heretical.
Fear not...they have to believe that as well.
This is but one of the many things Roman Catholics have to believe to remain Roman Catholic.
Christianity and Roman Catholicism...there is a difference.
That’s because it is not.
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