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Will Francis "Lift" the Excommunication of Martin Luther?
Gloria TV ^ | September 14, 2017 | Gloria TV

Posted on 09/14/2017 10:58:03 AM PDT by ebb tide

In October or November Pope Francis will publish some document, through which he will remove the excommunication of Martin Luther (+1546) according to the anonymous blog Anonimi della Croce. The problem: excommunication is the exclusion of a Catholic from the sacraments. This decision cannot be reversed in the case of Luther as he has died in the meantime.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: excommunication; francischurch; luther
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1 posted on 09/14/2017 10:58:03 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I’m sure Martin Luther couldn’t care less.


2 posted on 09/14/2017 10:59:08 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: ebb tide

Luther’s estate or descendants should file a restraining order.


3 posted on 09/14/2017 11:02:45 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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To: ebb tide

Seven days to go! Hold fats! Jesus is coming for us!


4 posted on 09/14/2017 11:03:30 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: samtheman

This is like an ex-girlfriend you are finished with announcing she will accept you back.
Like a creepy stalker with photos all over their wall of their interest...

Protestants ain’t going back. I half expect we will find our tires slashed one morning.


5 posted on 09/14/2017 11:04:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Jim 0216

Hillary already absolved!


6 posted on 09/14/2017 11:08:10 AM PDT by IWontSubmit (2)
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To: ebb tide

This is as bad as lds baptism for the dead.


7 posted on 09/14/2017 11:11:28 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ebb tide

How does he have the authority to do that?


8 posted on 09/14/2017 11:16:17 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: IWontSubmit
Loonies always get absolved.


9 posted on 09/14/2017 11:19:14 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: DesertRhino
Protestants ain’t going back.

No, we're not. I don't need a creepy SJW in the Vatican who majored in Marxist social engineering to arrange my salvation.

(Please understand, I don't hate on Catholics. I know a ton of awesome ones, and I went to their Mass as a guest when I was a kid. I don't hate on anybody. People are a one-at-a-time thing to me.)

10 posted on 09/14/2017 11:25:52 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: SubMareener

Seven days to go! Hold fats! Jesus is coming for us!


I don’t have any fats. Would Jesus settle for broccoli?
It’s so hard shopping for a deity.


11 posted on 09/14/2017 11:27:34 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: sparklite2

Sorry about that. I have dyslexia of the fingers as well as the mind.


12 posted on 09/14/2017 11:30:59 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Riley

“Please understand, I don’t hate on Catholics.” I understand and I believe you. Many of us believing and practicing Catholics are being driven nuts by this Pope.

What kind of Protestant are you, by the way? My favorite Protestant denomination is Missouri Synod Lutheran.


13 posted on 09/14/2017 11:31:29 AM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: ebb tide

Francis will probably try to make a case for Luther’s sainthood.


14 posted on 09/14/2017 11:37:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide

“This decision cannot be reversed in the case of Luther as he has died in the meantime.”

So? Bodily, yes, but his spirit lives on. Isn’t the continued praying for the deceased, or praying (*ahem* talking) to the saints, premised on the continuing spiritual life of a person as simply liberated from corporeal restraint? then why would mere bodily death deny one reversal of excommunication?


15 posted on 09/14/2017 11:46:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Of course he should. Luther tremendously expanded the reach of Christianity by observing it extends beyond human-imposed limits, and spawned the notion that everyone should have access to God’s Word without relying on obligatory fallible human intervention.

(And should one retort that “matters of worship are infallible”, then I’d contend that means excommunication is irreversible, be the subject dead or alive.)


16 posted on 09/14/2017 11:51:01 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ebb tide

Who gives a rip what the Poop says or thinks.


17 posted on 09/14/2017 12:47:48 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: ebb tide

This is very possible. We already see an incredible rapproachment between Islam and Catholicism with the Pope calling Allah, “God”, and praying in the Blue Mosque. I would also predict that a reunification is coming between the Russian Orthodox Church and RCC. All of this is making way for the False Prophet of Revelation 13. Maranatha!


18 posted on 09/14/2017 1:33:08 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jim 0216
I’m sure Martin Luther couldn’t care less.

Nor should we. It was 500 years ago, people!


19 posted on 09/14/2017 1:34:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: utahagen; DesertRhino; Riley

I share that sentiment. My closest friend for decades is the most devout Catholic I have ever met (more than some priests and nuns I have known).

I nevertheless have problems with the Catholic Church, not only doctrinal but procedural. As a semi-professional chorister, I have sung in Catholic churches and cathedrals many times in both America and Europe (sometimes paid, usually gratis). I ceased to do so where I live because the local diocese decided that I, a celibate Christian male (and virgin, it so happens) would not be allowed to use the Men’s Room while boys who might use the facility were in the building.

I see: The Catholic Church conceals and indulges homoerotic pedophiles, gets caught for doing so for decades, refuses to adequately address the Elephant in the Sanctuary, and then punishes all men - ALL MEN, including innocent laity - instead of rooting out the rot within the clergy. That alone proves that communistic one-size-fits-all, lowest-common-denominator philosophy has overtaken the Catholic Church, quite apart from the attitude and behavior of the current Pope.

I was not about to approbate that unChristian injustice; I have refused to sing there ever since.

By the bye, I was raised in the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod. Having been trained by parochial schooling and having served in church ministry, I have over the years met scores of clergy in many denominations.


20 posted on 09/14/2017 1:56:03 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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