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Can the Church change its doctrines?
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Posted on 05/20/2016 5:01:10 PM PDT by Salvation

Can the Church change its doctrines?


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I was amazed to read recently where a Catholic priest theologian said that the Church is not infallible and that it has changed its doctrines. Apparently he felt Jesus' words in Matthew 18:18-19 ("Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again, I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything for which they are to pray, it shall be granted them by my heavenly Father") mean that the Church can change its doctrines as times change.

Answer

No, the Church cannot change its doctrines no matter how badly some theologians may want it to or how loudly they claim it can. The doctrines of the Catholic Church are the deposit of faith revealed by Jesus Christ, taught by the apostles, and handed down in their entirety by the apostles to their successors. Since revealed truth cannot change, and since the deposit of faith is comprised of revealed truth, expressed in Scripture and Sacred Tradition, the deposit of faith cannot change.

While it's certainly true that our Lord's words to the apostles in Matthew 18:18-19 grant authority to the apostles to "bind" the members of the Church to believe the doctrines of the Church ("He who listens to you listens to me. He who rejects you rejects me and the one who sent me" [Luke 10:16]), the "loosing" spoken of in Mathew. 18:18 does not mean the apostles can modify doctrine.

The Church does not have the power to do the impossible, to change or delete divinely revealed truth which forms the deposit of faith. Rather, the concept of loosing, as it pertains to the apostles and their successors, has more to do the Church's ability to dispense individuals or the whole Church from observing certain ecclesiastical disciplines. There are many examples of this authority to bind and loose in the arena of Church discipline. Here are a few:

None of these issues deals with doctrine as such (since doctrine is unchangeable) but with Church discipline, government, and penance.



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Many people will be relieved to find out that Catholic Doctrine cannot change.
1 posted on 05/20/2016 5:01:10 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Catholic Doctrine Ping!


2 posted on 05/20/2016 5:02:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Absolutely. Grace and truth never changes but church doctrines tend to change quite a bit.


3 posted on 05/20/2016 5:03:24 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Did you read the article?

You might want to focus on the last line.

**None of these issues deals with doctrine as such (since doctrine is unchangeable) but with Church discipline, government, and penance.**

Catholic Doctrine does NOT change.


4 posted on 05/20/2016 5:10:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Is the Assumption of Mary doctrine?


5 posted on 05/20/2016 5:10:41 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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Well, they no longer sell indulgences (I think) and quit burning heretics alive (thank goodness) so those are positive changes. Churches change but it is God that does not change.


6 posted on 05/20/2016 5:10:55 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: Salvation

Doctrine: a belief or set of beliefs held and taught by a church, political party, or other group.

One can only share a belief, not teach it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYajHZ4QUVM&index=19&list=RD_cdfKXmS82Y


7 posted on 05/20/2016 5:11:06 PM PDT by soycd
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To: sparklite2

No, it is a dogma.


8 posted on 05/20/2016 5:11:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BipolarBob

Do they still burn witches?

Never mind, that was English Protestants...


9 posted on 05/20/2016 5:29:50 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: BipolarBob

Ahem. Selling of indulgences -— or of any other spiritual good -— is neither a doctrine nor a dogma. It is a sin. It was a sin in the First Century when Simon Magus tried to buy spiritual powers from St. Peter (and Simon Magus’ name was adopted to name the sin, “simony”); it was a sin in the 16th century when popes and their agents were doing it; and it would be a sin today.

Popes sin. (News flash!). And the sins of highly placed churchmen are still that -— sins — not doctrines.

Same for burning heretics. There is no doctrine of the Church that says people must or may be executed for theological error.

Oh yes, the leading men of the Catholic Church have been sinners from the beginning. On Good Friday, one Apostle sold Jesus out for thirty pieces of silver, one denied Him three times, and the rest (except John) scattered and hid like the cowards they were. Behold, our first hierarchy!

But repentance and grace prevail, through the gracious saving power of Christ, Who did not and does not abandon us to our human errors.

Christ rescues His Church -— every time.

Praise Him!


10 posted on 05/20/2016 5:41:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: soycd

Read what you wrote again... very carefully...


11 posted on 05/20/2016 5:41:54 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amen!


12 posted on 05/20/2016 5:46:43 PM PDT by tiki
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To: pgyanke

“One can only share a belief, not teach it.”

Exactly what I meant. Believing is an individual trait. Like Gravity, it exists, yet can not be quantified. Quanta is an individual element that belief has yet to identify.


13 posted on 05/20/2016 5:49:41 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Salvation

I am deeply offended by “the Church”. I am a protestant . Stop that.


14 posted on 05/20/2016 6:04:33 PM PDT by WENDLE (NEWT is the one!!)
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Don't be offended -- check the facts.

How Old Is Your Church?

15 posted on 05/20/2016 6:07:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jim 0216

Some people would be better off to not open their mouth.


16 posted on 05/20/2016 6:10:13 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Selling of indulgences -— or of any other spiritual good -— is neither a doctrine nor a dogma.

It was a practice carried out by a large powerful church.

And the sins of highly placed churchmen are still that -— sins — not doctrines.

More wordplay. It became an established practice. Same difference as doctrine . . at least to the ones being burned.

Who did not and does not abandon us to our human errors.

And how do we know that for sure? Don't tell me. You think you are the One True Church that Jesus made a promise to. How about if you're not? And the One True Church is really an invisible collection of souls that God keeps under His watch that he keeps track of instead of a man made denomination. Matt. 7:22, 23

17 posted on 05/20/2016 6:14:39 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: Salvation; WENDLE

No!! Not the “How old is your Church” question. Would it not be more grammatically correct to ask “How long has your denomination been in existence”? But even that seems inconsequential in the long haul. Adam worshiped God in the Garden of Eden. Abraham worshiped Him long ago. Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt and the worshiped Him. The Apostles and Jesus were all Jews, so they got some time in before Catholicism as well. God didn’t leave us a denomination, He left us His Word and His Promise. Let’s read, meditate and practice that.


18 posted on 05/20/2016 6:23:45 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: BipolarBob

Wordplay? Do you say there is no difference between divine Truth and sinful practice?

To return again to a very early example: do you think betraying and abandoning Jesus was a doctrine of the NT Church?


19 posted on 05/20/2016 6:31:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
do you think betraying and abandoning Jesus was a doctrine of the NT Church?

No, but it made them better disciples and strengthened them for later trials (except for Judas). They repented and regretted their actions. There is a difference between a moment of weakness (with possible danger to themselves) and persistent actions over many many years of an institution which inflicted cruel tortures and death to who knows how many souls that believed different from them. Maybe you don't see the difference but I am sure God does.

20 posted on 05/20/2016 6:41:09 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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