Order of Dependency for the Bible-believing Christian

January 30, 2016 | Robert E. Patenaude, Th.D.

[John Leland 1789]

Whether anyone in Washington, DC believes that the United States of America is the product of a Christian Heritage, whether anyone has the courage to continue to call the United States a Christian Nation, or not, . . . . our elected representatives must be aware that there are remaining throughout the country millions of Bible-believing Christians who are determined to live-out traditional, Biblical, Christian ideals in our homes and in our public life.

We reject the federal government taking the place or honor of God Almighty in our existances.

ORDER OF DEPENDENCY FOR THE BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIAN CONTRASTED WITH THE ORDER OF DEPENDENCY INSISTED UPON BY GODLESS GOVERNMENT

1. God; that is, the God of the Bible. 2. The Individual; walking with God and submissive to His Word and Will. This would include obedience to the Biblical work ethic (Ecclesiates 3:12, 13; 1 Timothy 5:8; 2 Thessalonians 3:6-­‐15; and a host of other Scripture passages), and genuine care for the family and for the Church of God. 3. The Family; the Home, including extended family. God and the individual are vital here. This concept suffered a severe blow by the Industrial Revolution, by Materialism, and by Roosevelt Socialism. The Social Security System mentality has very unfortunately relieved younger generations from keeping close watch over and responsibility toward their elder generation. 4. The Church; that is the local assembly of Christian believers (e.g., of which the Christian is a member.) 5. Genuine Christian friends in general, inside or outside of one’s local assembly. This could also include ministries like “Rescue Missions” (We believe, however, that even these kinds of ministries should be conducted under the authority of local churches.) ORDER OF DEPENDENCY FOR THE BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIAN (Continued) 6. Neighbors. The reason for developing harmony and protective structures in neighborhoods or communities. The Christian with his witness and testimony is vital to the protection of neighborhoods from the onslaught of the wicked. 7. Community Chests on a Local level, where the local community can determine genuine needs and keep a check on fraud and wastefulness in charitable work. 8. Charitable Organizations: First local (e.g. Community Chests); then Regional, then National, and only then International. This would include medical trusts and charities, food charities, housing & shelter charities, et cetera. 9. Privately-­‐owned business and industry in their voluntary contributions to charitable work.
10. Civil Government being last: Local government should be primary because it is closest to the scrutiny of the people; then state level; and the Federal Government last of all, and only under strict servanthood to the people.

BUT TODAY’S FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BELIEVES OUR DEPENDENCY SHOULD BE IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER:

1. The Federal Government gone National-­‐Socialist (the “Nanny State”). 2. State Government under the control of Washington. 3. Local subservient bureaucracies, taking their orders from Washington.
4. Industry, Labor Unions, Banks, and Insurance Companies being partly or fully Nationalized and Regulated. 5. Liberal-Socialist Special Interests. 6. Socialist-indoctrinated charities, such as the “United Way.” 7. Progressive Religious Denominations which tow the current Socialist agenda of Washington.

There is no call for dependency upon God, family, or the individual in the scheme of the so-called federal government in Washington today.

Each Christian should, and is urged to present the Biblical order of dependency for the Christian to their elected representatives and insist upon it; make it our solid and genuine conviction.

The Biblical order of dependency is why we are opposed to “Obamacare” and all other socialist schemes pretending to solve the problems of man. ORDER OF DEPENDENCY FOR THE BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIAN (Continued)

We urge families to make a project of placing the Scripture references with each point in the Biblical order of dependency (we have helped here just a bit with regard to the Christian work ethic), and submit this all in neat and proper form to your elected representatives on the Federal, State, and Local levels.

[mountn man]

whether anyone has the courage to continue to call the United States a Christian Nation, or not,

Courage???

More like stupidity.

It's obvious and has been for quite awhile that the US hasn't been a Christian nation.

Some might argue, we were never a TRULY Christian nation, but a nation built on laws with Christian foundations and a sizeable Christian population.

I doubt if at any time after 1776 that we ever had a population that was ever 50% or more true Christians.

[Don Corleone]

The opiate of the masses as preached by the Marxists.

[20yearsofinternet]

My order of dependency starts with the Gospels and flows out from there.

I know that to some that makes me a ‘bad Christian’ because I don’t care about preaching the most to get a big mansion, or telling people who God wants them to vote for.

So be it. God will judge me.

[sakic]

I thought we are are against Sharia law.

[snarkpup]

When politicians talk about their allegiance to God and Country, in that order, most people do not get terribly excited and ignore it as background noise. But people sit up, take notice and resist when politicians exhibit allegiance to a religious mass movement and country, in that order. This is one of Cruz's mistakes. He would be wise to follow the advice of the author of the article and put his church at #4 instead of equating it with God Himself.

[Nifster]

Give to Caesar that which is ceasar’s. Give to God that which is God’s

[Campion]

Ironically, a whole lot of evangelical Christians wouldn't consider voting for John F. Kennedy in 1960 until he said, in essence, that his Catholic faith and his governance lived in two different compartments and wouldn't inform each other.

Precinding from the question of whether it was a good idea to vote for Kennedy anyway -- it wasn't -- this is just wrong. It was wrong for Kennedy to say it and wrong for him to mean it. And it was wrong for evangelicals, who ought to have known better, to require Kennedy to commit to being a hypocrite and to governing like an agnostic in order to earn their support. (Being a Kennedy, this was of course very easy for him.)

Hopefully we've gotten past that sort of thing. I'm a Catholic. Ted Cruz is an evangelical. I wouldn't be supporting him if I thought his Christian faith wouldn't inform his decision making.

[sauropod]

Some might argue, we were never a TRULY Christian nation, but a nation built on laws with Christian foundations and a sizeable Christian population.

Correct. Wasn't it John Adams that said our system of government was setup for a wholly moral people and totally inadequate for any other?

[bluejean]

“whether anyone has the courage to continue to call the United States a Christian Nation”

It’s not about courage, it’s about facts. The country has unmoored itself from its founding principals, morals, history, and purpose. It is a secular nation now, where “every man (and woman) does what is right (what feels good) in his own eyes (how he/she sees perceives the world)”. It seems God has removed his lamp from this nation and it is sliding into the abyss.

It may be too late to save it or turn it around. The Obama regime has several months yet to work, like devils that know they have a short time.

[Salvation]

I don’t see a live source to click on.

[amorphous]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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The People of the United States, at the time, established the Constitution specifically for those things mentioned in its Preamble. It was never intended to subjugate the rights granted to ALL, by Almighty God - including the right to life for those in the womb.

No banner, nor affiliation of men, will long survive in the face of the creator of the universe. So having the good sense to recognize such, unlike many today, the founders based our mutual declaration upon God's natural law. America benefited greatly from their insight. Today, such wisdom is as scarce as hen's teeth in D.C., and we suffer accordingly.

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"if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

[John Leland 1789]

You are at the source. Copy and paste.

[John Leland 1789]

Who is Caesar in the United States?

[Salvation]

Where is the article by Robert E. Patenaude, Th.D. that you copied and pasted? Where is that source?

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[Nifster]

the govt....are you that daft????

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[John Leland 1789]

Whole libraries exist documenting the Christian influence, the church influence, the pastoral influence on the foundlings of our nation. Many books have been published over the past 200 years documenting the correspondences between our founding fathers and pastors throughout the original colonies. The influence of the Virginia Baptists on Madison and the reasoning behind the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment in particular is all well documented.

[John Leland 1789]

This is entitled, "The Order of Dependency for Bible-Believing Christians." It is for Bible-believing Christians, not secularists or simply nominal (in belief or practice) "Christians," or for liberal denominational types.

It says nothing about any laws or ordinances enacted or to be enacted by civil government. It does mention Obamacare as an illustration of law that people and families who depend on God and the ways of God's provision for our lives loathe and abhor.

There is available the U.S. Government's list (I have a copy supplied by U.S. Senator Joe Donelly---no Republican would take the time to get it for me for some reason) of all religious churches and societies the members of which are exempted from Obamacare. Those churches and societies were able to convince the feds that their dependency was on God to the degree that they could not comply with the mandates of Obamacare. The feds exempted them---

And THIS is what I am talking about. The Christian's dependency upon God should be so obvious, so pronounced, and so observable that civil government would rather back off than oppose the faith of God's people.

[John Leland 1789]

Upon what authority would anyone ever call the United States federal government “Caesar?”