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How do you square your Christian faith with hatred of Muslims? (VANITY)
12/9/15 | Hoagy62

Posted on 12/09/2015 10:22:15 PM PST by hoagy62

As one looks at the articles and comments found on Free Republic, you can see the complete and utter loathing, disgust, and outright hatred towards Muslims. It is viewed as a justified hatred, built on the actions Muslims have taken for decades against Americans and others. Notable attacks include the Beirut bombing of the Marine barracks, Beslan in Russia, the recent San Bernadino attack, and of course 9/11.

However, I was challenged by a few friends recently as to how a professing Christian can have a deep-seated hatred for Muslims. They reminded me of Jesus' command to love one another. They pointed out that He wasn't just talking about Christians loving other Christians (which can be difficult sometimes), but about Christians loving people in their communities...even those one may count as an enemy.

It's been pointed out to me that Christ's death on the cross wasn't just for me...it was also for the Muslim. He wants them to come to know Him as their Savior just as much as He wants us...or me...to. The problem they see is that someone won't want to come to know Christ if those who say they're His followers are in your face telling you that they hate you.

When I point out to them about the danger that Muslims have time and time again posed to society, they argue that Jesus didn't care if they were dangerous- He wanted His followers to love them, And, if that love had an element of risk associated with it, His followers were to love them anyway. A reminder of what that looks like can be seen in the story of the Christian men who ended up martyred by the Auca tribe in South America.

In any case, what they said is making me think. I want to know how one can reconcile a hatred for Muslims with Jesus' command to love people. It does seem that you can't do one and do the other as well. Yes...I am aware I may very well be opening up a huge can of worms, but this has been bugging me and I wanted to discuss it with my fellow FReepers.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Islam; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: agape; christianity; dhimmitude; faith; falselove; liberalism; muslims; strawman; vanity
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To: hoagy62

If you refuse to hug a rattlesnake to your chest, it does not indicate you “hate” rattlesnakes, just that you understand their nature.


81 posted on 12/10/2015 3:41:15 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: hoagy62

Typical communist trick. A straw man. A false choice. Wanting to preserve and protect the integrity of The United States of America does not require a hatred of some other country or religion.

In America, as Founded, we can have freedom and liberty. We don’t have to hate something before we can like something else.

Illustrated in the closing scene of the Dan Ackroyd, Eddie Murphy, Jamie Lee Curtis flick TRADING PLACES; when Denholm Elliott’s character is asked whether they should have lobster or cracked crab for lunch. To which Elliott replied, “Why don’t we have both?”

God Bless America. And America Bless God. Amen.


82 posted on 12/10/2015 4:03:53 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: hoagy62

Islam is a form of government. Is it un-Christian not to love a form of government?


83 posted on 12/10/2015 4:12:36 AM PST by Mark was here ("The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam" - Obama.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Since they lie to advance the cause of Islam, how would you know that they have converted? That in a nutshell is my problem with the Muzzies and the fact that they would like to chop off my head.


84 posted on 12/10/2015 4:15:36 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: hoagy62

The title is a trap.


85 posted on 12/10/2015 4:15:37 AM PST by o_1_2_3__ (Obama lied, people died - Holiday Edition)
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To: easternsky

That’s it.

I hate islam. I don’t hate muslims.

In fact, I would love to see every muslim examine islam closely. If they don’t subscribe to what it says, they should leave it. If they want to live peacefully, the perfect thing to do would be follow the Prince of Peace.

That would also help the rest of the world know with whom they’re at war.


86 posted on 12/10/2015 4:17:09 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: hoagy62

You made a huge judgment regarding a Christian’s regard of Islam.

Most Christians do not hate Muslims. Islam is a syncretic tribal religion based on a hash of Christianity and Judaism with pagan elements thrown in diametrically opposed to Christianity, but hatred, no.

Are they in error, yes. Do they need evangelization, of course, we are called to reach out.

Hate sin, hate death and terror, righteous anger at those who perpetrate such acts is just, but please, do not assume that hatred is the basis for a Christian’s worldview toward Muslims.


87 posted on 12/10/2015 4:18:57 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: hoagy62

Hoagy62, you completely misunderstand Christianity. You have an idealized academic perspective, not to be found in scripture, but in the misinterpretation and misuse of it.

Jesus did recognize that there were times we needed to take up swords and He said so.

Have you ever tried to reason with a Moslem? Have you ever been to one of their countries and seen the demonic possession of the place and people? I have.

If we cannot reason with Moslems or drive out their demons we have only one recourse.

And that is to take up swords.

And I’m certain you misconstrue the real concern and resolve of Freepers for hatred. That’s a strong word...too strong. We really disrespect and despise them, even loathe them, as we would any evil demon or impure anti-Christian thing. And that’s a healthy thing, purely human.


88 posted on 12/10/2015 4:24:24 AM PST by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: hoagy62

It’s simple. I don’t hate Muslims. I hate islam Muslims are it’s primary victim group and are to be exposed to the gospel. But the belief system to which they subscribe is very dangerous.


89 posted on 12/10/2015 4:30:19 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: hoagy62

I don’t hate Muslims, I hate the vile, demonic religious and political system of Islam they are part of and don’t trust anyone who embraces it in any way.

Nothing would make happier than to see millions deceived by Islam repent and receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.


90 posted on 12/10/2015 4:53:56 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: hoagy62

Bait post. Faithful Christians do not hate muslims. We only believe they need to repent and turn back to God. That failing, they can NOT live here. They must be deported because the koran teaches them to subdue, tax and/or kill us. Either they change, or they leave. No hate involved. It’s like living around cannibals. No compromise is possible.


91 posted on 12/10/2015 4:59:46 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: tjd1454
I found many Muslims to be commendable, but they were unable to stand against the violent impulse at the heart of their religion.

Well said. Same here. They will follow the koran when ordered to do so in times of turmoil. The teachings of the koran are the root problem.

92 posted on 12/10/2015 5:01:31 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: hoagy62

I pray for their repentance and conversion ... right up to the moment the bullet goes through their skull.


93 posted on 12/10/2015 5:04:00 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: hoagy62

I do not hate Mohammedans; I have great contempt for the cult that they call a religion because it is satanically inspired.

I do not worry so much about those who belong to this cult simply because that is all they have ever known and who do not even delve into their beliefs. We could call them cultural muslims, I suppose, just as we have Christians and Jews that we would describe as “cultural ____”.

Because there are mohammedans who, following the dictates of their cult, wish to establish a worldwide caliphate through violence and destruction, I believe we must be wary of all mohammedans who wish to come into our country.

If a mohammedan comes to the US after a thorough, reliable vetting and truly assimilates — rather than living by sharia law — then we can probably live safely with him.

Yes, Jesus charged us to love one another, and, while He gave Himself over to be murdered, I don’t think He requires His followers to sit idly by while their women and children are raped and murdered.


94 posted on 12/10/2015 5:04:37 AM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

Well said!


95 posted on 12/10/2015 5:05:27 AM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: hoagy62
So, are you saying that to practice Christianity one must enter into a suicide pact?
96 posted on 12/10/2015 5:05:32 AM PST by RAY (God Bless the USA)
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To: hoagy62
Your question is misleading. The real question is, "Why do Christians hate Islam?"

The god of Islam denies Jesus Christ is his son, and elevates the prophet, Muhammed, above Jesus. Let me state with absolute clarity that this is false, and we Catholics have designated Islam a heresy from the get-go.

Anyone who studies Islam will realize that true Muslims can never integrate into Christian society (and, YES, the USofA was designed as a Christian society, irrespective of the blatherskites who deny that).

A true Muslim can NEVER be trusted. Not ever. Because a large part of their creed is to lie and falsely ingratiate themselves into a community until they have acquired enough clout to start dictating life to others through shariah.
97 posted on 12/10/2015 5:08:37 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: detective

+1


98 posted on 12/10/2015 5:11:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: hoagy62

I don’t hate Muslims. I don’t hate anyone. As a Christian I am allowed to defend those whom I love from evil.


99 posted on 12/10/2015 5:12:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: hoagy62

You’ve got a hundred responses here, boy.

What say ye?


100 posted on 12/10/2015 5:12:17 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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