Posted on 07/04/2015 2:11:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Won’t discuss. It is incoherent babbling by an aged Rabbi.
If polygamy isn’t Biblical marriage then how did Solomon get away with it?
Not just Solomon:
Abdon, Abijah, Abraham, Ahab, Ahasuerus,
Ashur, Belshazzar, Benhadad, Caleb, David,
Eliphaz, Elkanah, Esau, Ezra, Gideon,
Heman, Hosea, Ibzan, Issachar, Jacob,
Jair, Jehoiachin, Jehoram, Jerahmeel, Joash,
Lamech, Machir, Manasseh, Mered, Moses,
Nahor, Rehoboam, Saul, Shaharaim, Shimei,
Simeon, Terah, Zedekiah and Ziba.
Did you read in there about him having sex with all and 1200 children or staying married for 80 years? You sure seem to ad as many bad and intentions and reprobate activity as are needed in your imagination too make a single kind act into an indictment of a religious mans life.
I’m indicting a system, whether the man in the example actually existed or not.
Polygamy, when mentioned in the Old Testament, didn’t seem to turn out so good- Solomon’s kingdom failed after his death, there was strife between Ishmael and Isaac, Joseph getting sold into slavery, etc. The moral of the story seems to be, one wife would be the ideal. Societies today that permit polygamy- well, is Yemen the height of civilization? Or anywhere in the Middle East?
I would submit that the highest point of Western Civilization was that of the US in 1962, and that that civilization did not permit polygamy (or same-sex marriage). I would submit this proposition- the Republican party was right to label polygamy along with slavery as ‘twin relics of barbarism’ in its 1856 platform. I would also say that a reversion to such barbarism as we are seeing now is a sign of a crumbling civilization that will not deserve to survive.
I do not like to get into the religious aspects of polygamy any more than I do of using tobacco..
But will just say although I don`t think it would be for me I see no where that it is forbidden.
Abraham who was called the friend of God had two wives and Jacob the father of the tribes of Israel had four.
Regardless of what our feelings are on any particular subject we should not try to make the bible say what it does not say nor should we take away from it.
People will go to any extremes to try to prove their point including going to writings which was not considered worthy enough to be included in the bible to begin with.
And the sad part is most of this comes from people who believe in idealism or control more than they believe in the word of god.
But there is a bright side, it is tearing the whore of Babylon and her daughters apart which is what the word of God predicts.
I’m so sick of hearing the word “Biblical” it makes me want to throw up.
God is the final authority. A living breathing God. But I digress.
Marriage is not just a good idea. Marriage is a commandment of God.
1 Cor:
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
This was not just a suggestion. God set it up this way so that two halves will make a whole. We learn and grow from this union.
Polygamy was given to man by God, to be practiced under certain circumstances. But only when he commands it. The reason is easy to see; there are more women than men. So He provided away that everyone could be married.
This is why it’s human nature for woman to crave social interaction with other women. Men don’t require interaction at all from other men.
When the government forced the LDS Church to stop it’s practice, it was the women that marched and protested against this ban. Yup, the women wanted it. If you read the personal journals of the men at that time, the men described polygamy as one big headache. I thought that was ironic and humorous.
In the millennium, after Christ’s return, God will reinstate polygamy -for a time.
Isaiah 4:
1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Their “reproach” is that they are not married. Marriage is so important that women will basically beg a righteous man to take on his name after it’s importance is revealed in the millennium.
With polygamy, all widows can be part of a family and need not be alone.
This is why homosexuality is such an abomination. Homosexuality takes you to the opposite place of God’s intent. It so thoroughly destroys God’s plan of happiness for each person. Homosexuality is nothing but evil.
1 Cor 11
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
Polygamy can be righteously practiced if God commands it. Polygamy was acceptable on a restricted basis under the law of Moses.
Anyways...
This will completely undermine the MIGTOW movement.
Look to China for a case study on shortage of females and a surplus population of men. Didn't they just start to permit homosexuality and they are gearing up for a massive war.
Oh fer cryin' out loud. "Many males" cannot afford intercontinental travel for wife-seeking purposes. Tell that to the guy at the bar in Hancock County, TN.
Who says he got away with it. One of his wives lead him into idolatry. There is no passage showing Solomon ever repented.
Adam and Eve represent what God had in mind: Jesus Christ and his bride, the church.
The Sinaitic system of Torah wasn’t what God had in mind from the beginning, what it does is condemn man to spiritual death as a sinner, the old covenant being a covenant of death, the solution to the problem of sin found only in Christ’s blood, our atonement. The Torah being but a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ.
Likewise the polygamy practiced by Judaism in the old tesament. God had in mind monogamous marriage as seen in Adam and Eve. Polygamy is not what God predestined from the beginning, he predestined one man one woman in natural marriage, religiously one bridegroom (Christ) one bride (the church).
God made promise to Abraham of a singular “seed” through whom all nations of the earth would be blessed, Gen. 22:17, that seed was Christ. The Torah which came later was but parenthetical, “till the seed should come to whom the promise was made:”
“Wherefore then serveth the law (the Torah, or the old covenant)? It was added (a parenthetical addition) because of transgressions, till the seed should come (Christ) to whom the promise was made,” Gal. 3:19.
It is to be expected that this Rabbi would be an advocate of polygamy, the Torah and polygamy being peas of the same pod. Christians who believe the New Testament, which teaches monogamy, believe one man one woman is God’s ideal.
In any case. Polygamy is more Biblical than shame homo-marriage.
Solomon’s 600 royal wives and 300 concubines were the fruit of idolatry - the worship of empire, the worship of bodily indulgence - before they were the cause of his open worship of foreign idols.
I guess the men in “woman exporting” countries wouldn’t count. They’re not in “our society,” after all.
So much for the brotherhood of men.
About $750-850 round trip economy.
And even if this were as simplistically feasible as (in effect) popping into Thailand and 'buying' a woman (not much time allotted for courtship ---or you'd have to add weeks of expense to this trip) --- where does that leave the guys in Thailand? Without eligible women, without the prospect of every marrying and forming families of their own.
You've just abetted the forces that result in a market in women, exacerbated cultural disintegration, and shifted the male/female imbalances to another location, not solved them.
A lot of countries already have a drastic shortage of women. A few are short of men due to war and/or emigration. One of my Salvadoran friends said her peers in El Salvador often married much younger men, because so many of their generation - my age or a few years younger - had been killed or exiled.
Her husband was more than ten years younger than she, and given the age of their children, she must have snapped him up right out of high school.
And think of who's left behind: aging parents/grandparents, people who are somewhat older than young and frailer than vigorous, and all too often wife or GF #1 and the kids.
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