Posted on 10/30/2014 7:16:19 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana
The man who wrote the letter is an idiot.
Example:
“The church’s role as arbiter of so-called scientific thought...”
And where did Pope Francis claim that?
Another example:
“The assertion from a pope that God is neither divine nor omnipotent is startling.”
Again, where did Pope Francis claim that? No where EVER. If the idiot author were to respond with, “But, but, but, the pope said “we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so” then I would know the author doesn’t understand that God can’t do anything logically contradictory. God cannot make Himself cease to exist, for instance.
If you look at the number of possible generations since the evolutionists timeline/timelines, there simply are not enough to support simple organisms “evolving” into mammals.
There is normal genetic variation within species.
For organisms that are relatively simple, this can include more dramatic changes in such things as diet. These dramatic changes are only possible because the organism is relatively simple.
Complex organisms on the other hand can not survive and reproduce in the face of significant genetic mutation that is purported to cause one species to change into another over the course of multiple generations.
One has to also keep in mind that in species where it takes two parents and a functioning reproductive process in both in order for reproduction to happen, it’s that much more unlikely that reproduction will happen for individuals that have significant genetic mutations.
And evolution purports that this happens generation after generation, very frequently.
This is why evolutionists must now claim that the rate of evolution changes between practically a standstill to some magical superfast rate in certain unknown situations.
If you do the math of how many generations are physically possible during the evolutionists’ timeline, it becomes obvious that the theory is a fantasy.
The evolutionists’ theories are very difficult to dislodge from the higly educated, as the more highly educated one is, the more difficult it is to let go of what college professors impressed upon the young minds being trained to be know-it-all thought leaders of society.
I would, however, hope the Rev. opens his Bible to 1 Kings 18. Translations vary, of course, but all through the OT is sprinkled that the prophets of fake gods are nothing but magicians. So I THINK the Pope was referring to that. In addition, Jesus wouldn't perform miracles on demand like a performer either. So really, magicians <> divine.
Not every man of god is appointed. We see fake prophets of Jehovah in the OT, and Paul makes references in some of his letters about people misrepresenting the teachings of Jesus.
Finally, we Catholics know that not every Pope is going to be all holy (we've had some awful ones in our history). In selecting a Pope, we believe the Holy Spirit guides but doesn't force the vote.
I would have taken it as just a really powerful entity or something I guess. It’s probably over my head anyhow. When I am kinda hungry I have a demi urge to eat something.
FReegards
Are you kidding me? Protestants are more obsessed with what is misreported in the press about about what Pope says than any other group on the planet.
Every time the secular press reports something, almost always incorrectly, because they truly have no idea about anything but at best drive by theology, as the Pope saying something that is a radical change to the church, its never been the case upon true understanding of Catholic Cannon. Yet protestants are almost always the folks who jump all over what is reported and ignorantly run with it, and bash the Pope/Church.
Its almost like they can’t let go of a division they chose to make wit the Church in the 1500’s and continue to make among themselves to this very day. Every time a protestant decides to reinterpret something they launch a new church.
Agreed, the press do this all the time, because they are largely ignorant completely of theology... So the Pope says something and they run off acting like its some radical break from the Cannon, and it never is... its just ignorant reporting.
Typical rude letter from some Protestant. Slippers, etc. Not going to convert me...
This letter is spot on. Frank is a socialist who seeks to be acceptable to progressives by softening his church's stance on the only two issues on which it previously took a stand - abortion and homosexuality. The Catholic church's theology has been insane as long as it has existed with its pagan worship of Mary and other dead people, transubstantiation and elevation of tradition over Scripture.
Frank is killing what's left of Catholicism just like Obama is killing what's left of Americanism.
Because we know your pope is leading millions of people to hell...We not only have enough compassion to try to counter that, God tells Christians to do just as we are doing...
Assuming you are referring to Creation, I'll call you out on that...
The early Christian Church Fathers constantly argued with the pagans about the age of the earth, or about the age of civilization. They were unanimous that God had created the earth less than 6,000 years before they wrote. For example, one of the most influential, Augustine (AD354–430), in his most famous work, City of God, has a whole chapter, Of the Falseness of the History Which Allots Many Thousand Years to the World’s Past, where he says:
‘Let us, then, omit the conjectures of men who know not what they say, when they speak of the nature and origin of the human race. … They are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years, though, reckoning by the sacred writings, we find that not 6000 years have yet passed.’
Augustine clearly believed in a literal account of the Creation as written in the scriptures...NOW, you won't have to repeat that error again...
And that's what your common sense tells you, eh???
And Pastor Terry you will burn in hell for calling Jesus a liar when he said “if you don’t my blood and drink my blood my blood you have no life in you”. Amen.
“I for one, am happy to think of God as the originator of the Big Bang, and who allowed evolution to occur, just as He imbued Man alone with an immortal soul”
100 percent correct but don’t try telling a good ole boy evangelical that God didn’t start it all in 7 days about 4,000 years ago. I guess they think that God was too stupid to have caused the Big Bang millions and millions of years ago, to include animals (people) with no souls, and finally wanted to perfect the world so he created Adam and Eve. They just can’t handle the fact that one person could be that smart.
Since the document wasn’t released in English, let’s wait until the official translation comes out.
The best proof that the Pope speaks the word of God is that there is so much argument of him not meaning what he said and we don't know what he said because of translation problems. Maybe we could consult some older and better manuscripts of what he said./ sarc
Just two things you need to know, for peace of mind.
1. The Pope uses theological terms with the precision of Norm Crosby. Not long ago he said, “Jesus is consubstantial with the Father. Jesus is consubstantial with Mary.” All well and good, except that that means that Jesus and Mary are one substance. I.e., one being.
2. Just ignore the Pope until he dies. Start paying attention when we have a new Pope.
Reading 1 Eph 6:10-20
Brothers and sisters:
Draw your strength from the Lord and from his mighty power.
Put on the armor of God so that you may be able to stand firm
against the tactics of the Devil.
For our struggle is not with flesh and blood
but with the principalities, with the powers,
with the world rulers of this present darkness,
with the evil spirits in the heavens.
Therefore, put on the armor of God,
that you may be able to resist on the evil day
and, having done everything, to hold your ground.
So stand fast with your loins girded in truth,
clothed with righteousness as a breastplate,
and your feet shod in readiness for the Gospel of peace.
In all circumstances, hold faith as a shield,
to quench all the flaming arrows of the Evil One.
And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit,
which is the word of God.
With all prayer and supplication,
pray at every opportunity in the Spirit.
To that end, be watchful with all perseverance and supplication
for all the holy ones and also for me,
that speech may be given me to open my mouth,
to make known with boldness the mystery of the Gospel
for which I am an ambassador in chains,
so that I may have the courage to speak as I must.
I’ve seen it translated as “magician” in the last day or two.
But isn’t that “thaumaturge,” not “demiurge”?
I know thaumaturge from Jack Vance stories, yes it would seem to be another term for sorcerer or magic user. Demiurge is apparently something to do with esoteric gnostic stuff, maybe that is the magic connection.
Freegards
Well, that's wut it sez in the King James bobble, and if the King James bobble was good enuf fer Jesus, it's good enuf fer me.
“And that’s what your common sense tells you, eh???”
And your ‘common sense’ tells you that God can make Himself no longer exist? Really?
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