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Are you a Kisser or a Cleaver? (An advanced Class on the Scroll of Ruth)
TheYeshiva.net ^ | 2012 | Rabbi Joseph Isaac Jacobson

Posted on 05/06/2014 8:33:10 PM PDT by Phinneous

UNBELIEVABLE Class on the Scroll of Ruth and its Jewish commentaries-- from the simple meaning to the poetic, to the mystical/esoteric.

Did you know that Arpah (Ruth's sister) was the mother of Goliath? That Ruth was a reincarnation of the daughter of Lot (of Sodom fame or infamy) Learn about the incredible tapestry of this scroll.

Don't fear, non-Hebrew speakers, the rabbi translates everything and only the actual verse is read in Hebrew. The class is given in English...


TOPICS: History; Judaism; Theology
KEYWORDS: boaz; david; lot; ruth
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A guy was riding on his motorcycle with his girlfriend Ruth on the back. He hit a speedbump. She flew off... he kept going. Man that guy was ruthless.
1 posted on 05/06/2014 8:33:10 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

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2 posted on 05/06/2014 8:34:03 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Phinneous

"Wait, what?"


3 posted on 05/06/2014 8:38:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Phinneous
I enjoy how the names, or rather the meaning of the names of the characters in the story of Ruth create the underlying meaning for the story.
4 posted on 05/06/2014 8:38:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Jeff Chandler

LOL!


5 posted on 05/06/2014 8:40:09 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: MHGinTN

Give a listen...it’s well worth the time. I state again there’s no better way to tune out the world than doing dishes and listening to Torah.


6 posted on 05/06/2014 8:42:40 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

There is something soothing to listening to Hebrew spoken. I don’t know what it is. I’m a Gentile, raised in a non-Jewish home, but the sound of Torah does something to my soul, uplifting?


7 posted on 05/06/2014 8:47:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Phinneous

Did you post this just to make that joke?


8 posted on 05/06/2014 9:20:46 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Phinneous

“Did you know that Arpah (Ruth’s sister) was the mother of Goliath?”

Did you know that King David and Goliath were cousins by marriage?


9 posted on 05/06/2014 9:22:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MHGinTN

That’s because Hebrew is known as the ‘lashon hakadosh’ - the holy language.


10 posted on 05/06/2014 9:23:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Phinneous

Bump for later


11 posted on 05/06/2014 9:29:00 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Phinneous

the scroll isn’t biblically sound if it says ruth is a reincarnation of someone. it should not be trusted.


12 posted on 05/06/2014 11:06:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s in the Jewish canon, written by Samuel the prophet. Is your canon different?


13 posted on 05/07/2014 4:33:22 AM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Defiant

No, but it has been dormant for 30 years, waiting to shine.


14 posted on 05/07/2014 9:44:38 AM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

Specific verses?


15 posted on 05/07/2014 12:59:56 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

Please elaborate your question.


16 posted on 05/07/2014 1:56:15 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

You said that Ruth being reincarnated was in canon, Samuel. I was asking for specific verse.


17 posted on 05/07/2014 2:13:06 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

When I said “it’s in the canon” I was referring to the scroll itself. The reincarnation of Ruth is in Jewish commentary. Midrash Rabba Ruth (http://www.artscroll.com/images/insides/mrer-all.html#view-link)
....except it’s in Hebrew and Aramaic....
I’m not arguing the macro issue of those who do not (hold by, give credence/deference to) believe in Jewish commentaries veracity.

For those who want to hear fascinating insights into the Hebrew Bible... click away...


18 posted on 05/07/2014 2:40:49 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: RoadGumby; Zionist Conspirator; All

I just re-listened to parts 2 and 3...
I can’t stress again how beautiful these classes are. If you are a Hebrew-phile or an aficionado of original Jewish sources, this whole series is enlightening.

Caveats: Don’t knock the rabbi for mispronunciation of English words (he undoubtedly spoke Yiddish first.)
Don’t be frightened by any Hebrew—he translates everything
The word passuk (pronounced pus-ook) means verse...you’ll hear it a million times, followed by the Hebrew letter representing the number (aleph, beis, gimmel...1,2,3...)

Part 2 goes into detail about the “gilgul” reincarnations of Ruth and Boaz. Hint: very humble or questionable beginnings...

Link to part 2: http://theyeshiva.net/Video/View/210

Part 3 goes into detail about the courtship (if you want to call it that) of Ruth and Boaz

Link to part 3: http://theyeshiva.net/Video/View/215

RoadGumbu, towards the second half of part 3, he details the variants in the text of Chapter 3, verses 1-5. Meaning, in all of the Bible, there are many words that have their original, unchanged spelling in Hebrew, and the traditional way of reading them, unchanged and taught by Moses (this part will make non-Orthodox Jewish hairs bristle but so be it.) In every copy of the Jewish Bible these specific words are annotated. Often times they reveal alternative interpretations of the verse in question, sometimes the complete opposite meaning! In the 3rd chapter of Ruth, verses 1-5 all contain these “alternative” meanings. Mostly Naomi is implying that she herself (or at least her honor or stature) should be going to Boaz. I can’t do it justice here in English but if anyone is interested we can start a thread...
...and finally, at the end of verse 7, “Ruth came softly” The word “softly” in Hebrew is a homonym L-O-T. Ie, she came to Boaz like Lot’s daughters came to him in Genesis...this is the Jewish commentators throughout the ages take this as a further hint to the reincarnation of the soul of Lot’s daughter....great great great, etc grandmother of Ruth the Moavite (Moav means “from my father”)

If you really enjoy scripture— you have to learn Hebrew...there is no substitute...


19 posted on 05/08/2014 8:12:45 PM PDT by Phinneous
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Thanks for the links, Phinneous. I'll try to remember to listen to them before Shavu`ot (beli neder!).
20 posted on 05/09/2014 7:10:43 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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