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Pope Francis calls for flexibility, patience as he opens talks on church teaching
Religion News Service ^ | February 20, 2014 | David Gibson

Posted on 02/21/2014 10:14:48 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: NKP_Vet

Then why isn’t he being canonized?


81 posted on 02/22/2014 9:31:42 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide; piusv; stisidore

“...By making such a concession to the Hungarian government, Paul VI employed the authority conferred by Our Lord Jesus Christ on Saint Peter, in order to force the Cardinal not to oppose the plans of Communist imperialism. The keys of Peter functioning according to the desires of implacable atheist persecutors of religion: What is this, if not a bomb, probably the greatest bomb in the History of the Church, from Pentecost up to our day?...

(5) The worst was yet to come. Sometime later, Paul VI wrote to Cardinal Mindszenty, asking him to resign from his Archdiocese. The Cardinal refused. Paul VI deposed him. And then, a particularly bitter touch; the letter was handed over to the Cardinal precisely on the day that he was commemorating the 25th anniversary of his glorious imprisonment by the Communists.

The drama was ended. All during its course, from the beginning to the end, the conduct of the Vicar of Christ was what Communist imperialism desired, that is, what the antichrist desired.”

http://www.tfp.org/tfp-home/plinio-correa-de-oliveira/whatever-budapest-wants.html


82 posted on 02/22/2014 10:07:27 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Jim Noble
The USA annulment process HAS no integrity.

Wouldn't it be convenient if we could apply the same excuses used for obtaining annulments to also escape other contracts that prove burdensome over the long haul? How can anyone who possesses the ability to understand basic language (i.e. the wedding vows), and who is mentally capable of engaging in other contracts (e.g. car loan, library card, gym membership agreement) claim not to understand that they were agreeing to forge a bond that the Church (and the broader society) considers permanent? Obviously coercion or mental incompetence would be reasonable grounds, but some of the other excuses are simply rationalizations for revising history.

83 posted on 02/22/2014 10:31:53 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

There’s a whole industry that will teach you how to get an annulment, and many clergy and religious are active participants.

Look, I think the bishops in annulment-rich nations, with USA #1, hate the fact that anyone who says the right words and who isn’t going to cause a scandal gets one. They just don’t know how to stop.

And, I suspect, that Rome agrees that there is no way to stop but that Rome would also like to stop the constant subornation of perjury that the staff of the annulment machine procures, every day.

So, I think the EO “sacramental economy” solution is the only way out. It may be that a quickie annulment process will be put in place for a few years.

But if tens of thousands of divorced and remarried Catholics (many of whom are heads of families with children) can be allowed to stop the lying (”I didn’t really intend matrimony the first time” is most popular), I think the bishops will see it as a win.


84 posted on 02/22/2014 10:51:55 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Yes, I read Cardinal Mindzenty’s entire memoir, and it is a sad tale indeed. Especially as regards the machinations of the Vatican.


85 posted on 02/24/2014 4:18:06 PM PST by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: BlatherNaut

Agreed. I may be wrong in continuing to mention this, but I believe that the two lightning strikes on the Vatican immediately following Benedict’s resignation, along with the earthquake that Castel Gandolfo when he went up there afterwards, are indications of things to come.

In January, the Pope went to the window overlooking Vatican square. Two children released white doves, symbols of peace, which were promptly attacked by a seagull and a black crow.

http://www.cathnewsusa.com/2014/01/doves-released-vatican-attacked-seagull-crow/

I believe more signs will manifest themselves shortly; I am particularly looking at the day in April when the canonization of John XXIII will take place (along with Pope John Paul II).

As I have mentioned elsewhere, John XXIII HAS NOT had the required miracles attested to his intercession. Francis is going ahead with this on his own.

Trouble ahead.


86 posted on 03/06/2014 2:41:37 PM PST by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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