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Pope Francis calls for flexibility, patience as he opens talks on church teaching
Religion News Service ^ | February 20, 2014 | David Gibson

Posted on 02/21/2014 10:14:48 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: BlatherNaut

“Why the sudden switch to high speed canonizations?”

Two miracles have been attributed to J2P. In the case of Pope John the 23rd Benedict waived the requirement of a second miracle. I don’t call a 50 year wait as speeding up a process, and I guess that’s the main reason he decided to ahead and canonize Pope John.


61 posted on 02/21/2014 10:01:30 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("I never went to college, I was too busy learning stuff!" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Straight Vermonter

You are right. Teens need straight up instruction and guidance on marriage.


62 posted on 02/21/2014 11:04:02 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: stisidore

No, that is clearer. Thank you. And no need to apologize. It’s the nature of the beast called forum posting.


63 posted on 02/22/2014 4:54:43 AM PST by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut

Did you hear that they are now beatifying Paul VI?

This has truly become a joke.


64 posted on 02/22/2014 4:59:10 AM PST by piusv
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To: miserare

And where is that “kissing the Koran” picture where you need it? Nothing says Catholic Saint like a pope kissing the “holy” book of a false, diabolical religion.

JPII: patron saint of false religions


65 posted on 02/22/2014 5:03:24 AM PST by piusv
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To: NKP_Vet
I don’t call a 50 year wait as speeding up a process

Fifty years is a relatively short period of time (and less than ten years in the case of JPII was incredibly hasty). Waiving requirements is clearly speeding up the process. Why has this been done? It only serves to raise doubts and questions, and makes these speedy canonizations appear highly political.

66 posted on 02/22/2014 5:07:43 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: piusv; BlatherNaut

Paul VI, the next step in Vatican II rubber-stamping:

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/paolo-vi-paul-vi-pablo-vi-32232/


67 posted on 02/22/2014 5:09:26 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

I heard there were too many objections to go forward with it in the past. Has the status changed? Waiving miracles could serve to open up the floodgates.


68 posted on 02/22/2014 5:15:45 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: piusv

Wow. I wonder if Martin Luther will be next. That would be such an ecumenical gesture.


69 posted on 02/22/2014 5:18:17 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Well, Paul VI brought us a Lutheran-type service, so why not?


70 posted on 02/22/2014 5:54:24 AM PST by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut; piusv; stisidore
Paul VI to be Canonized? The Triumph of Wayward Sentiment
71 posted on 02/22/2014 6:57:49 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: BlatherNaut; piusv; stisidore
Paul VI Beatified?
72 posted on 02/22/2014 7:10:41 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: BlatherNaut

I know that the marriage bond must be defended, and that the integrity of the annulment process is important, but I really don’t think this is the ‘hold on to your seat’ change that has been cryptically referred to.

Nor do I have any clue as to what that might be.


73 posted on 02/22/2014 7:42:19 AM PST by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: ebb tide

Thank you for the link. I have already read most of it. In other readings I have come across, John XXIII was also problematic. I DO NOT have links to any of this, as it was just casual reading and I was not doing any research.


74 posted on 02/22/2014 7:45:20 AM PST by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: BlatherNaut

JP2 canonized more saints than all the Popes before him combined. He became Pope and saw that some had been waiting hundreds of years and he took immediate action to have these cases for sainthood completed. God bless soon to be Saint John Paul The Great. I hope and pray that in my lifetime I see these three great people of God canonized: Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Venerable Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, and Venerable Pope Pius XII.


75 posted on 02/22/2014 8:52:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("I never went to college, I was too busy learning stuff!" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: NKP_Vet
I hope and pray that in my lifetime I see these three great people of God canonized: Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Venerable Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, and Venerable Pope Pius XII.

Don't hold your breath on Pope Pius XII; Rabbi Skorka and Abe Foxman have Francis in their back pockets.

76 posted on 02/22/2014 9:06:01 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: stisidore
the integrity of the annulment process is important

You're kidding, right? The USA annulment process HAS no integrity.

It is the LACK of integrity of the annulment process that has caused the present situation.

Going back to 50 annulments/year in the USA will probably not happen.

I bet you anything that the EO model will be the final solution, although there may be a "quickie annulment" transition period.

77 posted on 02/22/2014 9:12:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ebb tide

He saved up to 500,000 Jews from the concentration camps.


78 posted on 02/22/2014 9:20:01 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("I never went to college, I was too busy learning stuff!" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: NKP_Vet; ebb tide

As long as the Jews see Pius XII in a negative light, Francis will never canonize him. That wouldn’t be too ecumenical and would offend them. Besides Pius XII was too traditional for sainthood.


79 posted on 02/22/2014 9:27:53 AM PST by piusv
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To: stisidore; Jim Noble; piusv; BlatherNaut; NKP_Vet
I wouldn't be so sure. The soon to be canonized, Pope John Paul II, reversed himself several times on Church doctrine:

INAESTIMABILE DONUM

It is not permitted that the faithful should themselves pick up the consecrated bread and the sacred chalice, still less that they should hand them from one to another.

There are, of course, various roles that women can perform in the liturgical assembly: these include reading the Word of God and proclaiming the intentions of the Prayer of the Faithful. Women are not, however, permitted to act as altar servers.

This instruction, prepared by the Sacred Congregation for the Sacraments and Divine Worship, was approved on April 17,1980, by the Holy Father, John Paul II, who confirmed it with his own authority and ordered it to be published and to be observed by all concerned.

80 posted on 02/22/2014 9:30:25 AM PST by ebb tide
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