Posted on 02/16/2014 3:48:45 PM PST by matthewrobertolson
The Church is my greatest weight. Of course, the weight of over a billion souls would likely be rather large, especially post-McDonald's, so I suppose that nothing else is really comparable.
What does this mean? In an age of moral relativism, instability, and self-gratification, much like the age of the Roman Empire prior to its Christian conversion, I found myself alone and empty after a scarring experience. So, I sought the counsel of philosophy and history surely, men had answered my questions before! and I was, after seemingly endless struggles with myself and others, eventually comforted. The Church became vindicated in my heart.
The more I study, the more I am forced to accept Catholicism as the true Faith. The depth and size of it, as well as its impacts on culture, force any serious student to step back and pay at least a bit of attention. It took me a while to overcome my initial ambivalence toward any religion in particular though I was always appreciative of God and enamored with the subject in general but once I had crossed the proverbial Tiber, there was no going back.
I was baptized Catholic, and I vaguely recall some crossing with holy water and lighting prayer candles, but I was hardly raised to practice the Faith. In high school, I dug into a box of things from my infancy. I spotted a rosary within it, along with a note saying that it belonged to my great-grandmother. I mentioned it to a Catholic friend, and he gave me some information about it. That set of events started the arduous process of reconciliation.
Later, at the urging of the aforementioned friend, I casually flipped through the writings of the Church Fathers (prominent ancient Christian leaders). I quickly became impressed. I only did this, originally, to assuage my ego. I had made a theological speculation, and he answered me with, Well, did the early Christians believe that? I did not know. Anyway, he was right, and I was wrong.
My advice for anyone that wishes to be a Protestant is to avoid the Church Fathers like one would avoid a plague. I once remarked to a professor that introducing the former to the latter is like shaking a baby: it might teach them a lesson, but it also might kill them.
In my search for the Truth (capital 'T' intended), I asked a long series of questions.
On the Magisterium (teaching authority) of the Church, I asked: Does God still reveal things to us, or does His message end with the Bible? What would He reveal things through?
The idea that God arbitrarily ended His message with the Bible and deliberately chose to allow confusion over doctrine became untenable to me, especially in light of verses like Deuteronomy 31:6 (He will never leave us) and John 17:11 (He requests Christian unity). The Protestant position on this (Sola Scriptura) then made little sense. How could that idea, unprecedented before the Renaissance and ungrounded in Tradition or common sense, be true? I have found no sensible argument in favor of it.
What would His mouthpiece be, though? His Bride (Mark 2:18-20), the Church, of course! As a wife understands the workings of her husband, so does the Church understand Christ. From there, how is She structured? This is where apostolic succession (the lineage of bishops from the time of the Apostles to the present) comes in. Bishops are given special power (Luke 21:15) which even Simon Magus knew was handed down (Acts 8:18-19) after the laying on of hands (1 Timothy 4:14; 2 Timothy 1:6) in their consecration ceremonies. They can trace themselves back to the very beginning of Christianity. All of this clicked in my head when I first read these words from St. Ignatius of Antioch: See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop.
Now, who leads it? This is answered by Matthew 16:18, the famous verse, which helped me grasp that Christ built His Church on Peter (aka Cephas), the faithful rock (Greek, Aramaic). It's a parallel to the story of Eliakim (Isaiah 22:20-22), who represented his king. St. Peter, called by Christ to feed [His] sheep (John 21:17), likewise represented his King. Some in the historical-critical movement have, naturally, raised objections to St. Peter's primacy. But even agnostic Protestant historian John Julius Norwich wrote of the pope, It seems more likely than not that St. Peter did in fact come to Rome and was martyred there, probably somewhere on the Vatican Hill [and] there can be little doubt that he was the generally acknowledged leader of Christ's disciples.Whenever I doubt, I latch on to this information: the historical basis for the Papacy is rock-solid.
My goal is to increase the powers and jurisdiction of this great entity to the fullest capacity, because I recognize the impact that She has had and can have on the world. Documents like Humanae Vitae and Evangelium Vitae urge respect for the sanctity of life, Rerum Novarum and Quadragesimo Anno offer economic principles rooted in good morals, and so on. If only humanity would follow the path that the Church has set forth! This temporal aspect, even by itself, is enough to drive me, despite how burdensome this desire can be.
In conclusion, I will leave the reader with a quote from G. K. Chesterton. The difficulty of explaining 'why I am a Catholic' is that there are ten thousand reasons all amounting to one reason: that Catholicism is true.
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Jesus Christ gave "the keys" to St. Peter, the first pope.
good post
Well done.
He didn't have to look any further than the nearest Scripture.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
Very interesting. I’ve begun a study, more accurately a re-study, of the Church Fathers, though I do not feel like a shaken baby.
Thanks. Dominus vobiscum! :)
“The Word” is God-incarnate (John 1:1), not a book that His Church wrote and compiled (with His guidance, of course).
Great! Out of curiosity, do you have a favorite?
If you had turned to God and his scriptures instead, you'd have become a Protestant...Let's look to see what God has to say about your journey...
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
So God is not too impressed with folks putting their trust in philosophy and men...
My advice for anyone that wishes to be a Protestant is to avoid the Church Fathers like one would avoid a plague.
Now that is bad advice...Protestants should read the church fathers...But they should also read the history of the Catholic religion to see how that apostate religion forged and fabricated letter and then falsely attributed them to those church fathers to make it look like the fathers supported the Catholic religion...
In my search for the Truth (capital 'T' intended), I asked a long series of questions.
On the Magisterium (teaching authority) of the Church, I asked: Does God still reveal things to us, or does His message end with the Bible? What would He reveal things through?
You obviously didn't ask God those capital T questions...You apparently ask your apostate religion...
Revelation ends with the scriptures...And to prove that, you can't name a single thing that revealed to your religion from God (with any kind of evidence)../
The idea that God arbitrarily ended His message with the Bible and deliberately chose to allow confusion over doctrine became untenable to me, especially in light of verses like Deuteronomy 31:6 (He will never leave us) and John 17:11 (He requests Christian unity). The Protestant position on this (Sola Scriptura) then made little sense. How could that idea, unprecedented before the Renaissance and ungrounded in Tradition or common sense, be true? I have found no sensible argument in favor of it.
I have...
Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
1Co 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Co 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
1Co 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men.
What would His mouthpiece be, though? His Bride (Mark 2:18-20), the Church, of course!
Really??? Really??? Not according to God...
Psa_119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
It is written is stated 80 times in the scriptures...
Joh_5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
This is where apostolic succession (the lineage of bishops from the time of the Apostles to the present) comes in. Bishops are given special power (Luke 21:15)
Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Luk 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
Luk 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Again, REALLY???...This is your proof for apostolic succession??? I'll bet you guys hate it when people check your references in the scriptures to see if you are telling the truth...
All of this clicked in my head when I first read these words from St. Ignatius of Antioch: See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop.
Apparently after you read a little bit of the church fathers you didn't bother with reading Catholic history to see that Ignatius' letters were forged...
Some in the historical-critical movement have, naturally, raised objections to St. Peter's primacy
Some in the scriptures raised objections too...Namely, the other apostles...
Act 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Peter certainly wasn't the top dog here...He followed orders from the other apostles...
So good luck with your human philosophy but don't confuse it with the truth of scripture, cause it ain't...
The Word says the word is truth, the bible...
Really, Pharisees in Colossae? Similar to Catholic 'Holy Tradition' was the Pharisee Oral Torah passed from God to Moses to to the Pharisees. Unlike the Oral Torah which was subsequently put to paper, Holy Tradition continues to be unwritten.
Judaizers more likely or early Catholics.
Col 2
8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits[a] of the world, and not according to Christ....
20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations 21 Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch 22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)according to human precepts and teachings? 23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
Bishops are given special power (Luke 21:15)
Not a bishop among those addressed. No wonder the Catholic church has need of Tradition, can't use scripture.
Psalm 119 is all about God’s word.
Word means BOTH. The Living word and the written Word.
The written word is the special revelation of the Living Word.
Nice try appealing to Matthew 23:1-3. Keep reading and it isn’t hard to see the Rome as the modern parralel of verse 4.
Et cum spiritu tuo.
(Sr. Leonita, I hope I remembered the proper spelling.)
Yep, you got it! Thanks! :)
I have always loved Latin. Miss it so at Mass.
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