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Let's Just Call the God of the Bible `Allah'
The Riddleblog ^ | August 15, 2007 | Kim Riddlebarger

Posted on 01/26/2014 9:55:33 AM PST by Gamecock

Bishop Martinus Muskens--a retiring Dutch bishop having either a senior moment or revealing his universalism--is proposing that people of all faiths simply refer to God as "Allah."  While many of Muskens' fellow Catholics are appalled (no surprise), the people at CAIR are thrilled (no surprise either).

According to a recent news article (Click here: FOXNews.com - Roman Catholic Bishop Wants Everyone to Call God 'Allah' - International News | News of the World |):

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"A proposal by a Roman Catholic bishop in the Netherlands that people of all faiths refer to God as `Allah' is not sitting well with the Catholic community.  Tiny Muskens, an outgoing bishop who is retiring in a few weeks from the southern diocese of Breda, said God doesn't care what he is called.

`Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him? It is our problem,' Muskens told Dutch television.

`I'm sure his intentions are good but his theology needs a little fine-tuning,' said Father Jonathan Morris, a Roman Catholic priest based in Rome. Morris, a news analyst for FOX News Channel, also called the idea impractical.  `Words and names mean things,' Morris said. `Referring to God as Allah means something.'"

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Foolish me.  I thought that a bishop’s theology was supposedly above the need for such fine tuning.  Meanwhile, CAIR's response (below) is predictable.

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"Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based Islamic civil liberties and advocacy group, backs the idea as a way to help interfaith understanding.

`It reinforces the fact that Muslims, Christians and Jews all worship the same God,' Hooper told FOXNews.com. `I don't think the name is as important as the belief in God and following God's moral principles. I think that's true for all faiths.'  Christians who are Arabic speakers speak of Allah when they speak of God, Hooper added. `There's not a theological leap to make on the part of Christians,' Hooper said. 

The Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago supports the idea.  `I think it will open up doors,' said Janaan Hashim, a spokeswoman for the group representing more than 400,000 Muslim Americans in the Chicago area. `Language is a man-made limitation. I think what God cares about is how we fulfill our purpose in life.'

The nation’s largest Catholic civil rights group says Catholics won't get behind the proposal.  `Bishop Martinus `Tiny' Muskens can pray to `Allah' all he wants, but only addlepated Catholics will follow his lead,' Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, said in a statement. `It is not a good sign when members of the Catholic hierarchy indulge in a fawning exchange with Muslims, or those of any other religion.'

Muskens spent eight years in Indonesia, where he said priests used the word `Allah' during Mass.  Muskens also has drawn attention for other ideas such as encouraging the hungry to steal bread and offering condoms to combat HIV and AIDS."

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As for the reason why the God of the Bible cannot be addressed by the name "Allah," check out my sermon on article eight of the Belgic Confession  (Click here: http://kimriddlebarger.squarespace.com/a-commentary-on-the-belgic-con/8%20edited%20they%20are%20all%20three%20one%). 

Even through the Arabic word for God is "Allah," Christians worship the Triune God who is supremely revealed in the person of Jesus Christ.  We do not worship the generic "god" of the world's religions, nor the false God of Islam, known as "Allah."

You'd think a bishop would know better . . .


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: allah; allahasgod; falsegod; god; godorallah; muskens; wasteofbandwidth
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1 posted on 01/26/2014 9:55:33 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Let’s just not.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 9:57:24 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Gamecock

Lets just call Mohammed “Pedophile, rapist, genocidal, slave trader” then.


3 posted on 01/26/2014 9:58:12 AM PST by struggle
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To: metmom; Alex Murphy

a. Granted this is an old article, but considering some of the comments I have seen made by Roman Catholics on FR over the last couple of days the content is very relevant.

b. Starting out by calling me a “Catholic hater” just proves you have no argument, or agree with the bishop and must resort to character assassination.


4 posted on 01/26/2014 9:59:09 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Gamecock
Not unly no, but H-E-Double Hockeystick NO!!

I worship the Three-Personed God of Christianity!



"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

5 posted on 01/26/2014 9:59:24 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Gamecock
I have a better idea!

Let the Mooslims call Allah "God."

6 posted on 01/26/2014 10:00:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Gamecock

Yeah. That’s working sooooo well in Indonesia.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 10:01:57 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Gamecock

Death to anyone who is not Muslim, but who would dare to call God, “Allah”.

Oh,....that was last week. Now, they like it. Who knew?


8 posted on 01/26/2014 10:02:12 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Gamecock

Allah is the middle east moon god. Why should we change the God, The Master of the Universe, in for a small thing like the moon?


9 posted on 01/26/2014 10:03:22 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Gamecock
It's not just a "little fine-tuning" that is needed. The Bishop is spiritually ignorant and is quite likely not a true born again Christian.

The truth is that "Allah" is another name for satan, the liar, the deceiver, the enemy of the church and all that is good.

10 posted on 01/26/2014 10:03:37 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Gamecock
Christians who are Arabic speakers speak of Allah when they speak of God, Hooper added. `There's not a theological leap to make on the part of Christians,' Hooper said.

Sed Contra

For non-Arabic speakers to use the name Allah for the God of the Blessed Trinity implies an acceptance of Islam. Christians cannot accept the basic tenet of Islam (which is "There is no God but Allah and Mohamed is his greatest prophet") and remain Christian.

11 posted on 01/26/2014 10:05:46 AM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Gamecock

There’re a lot of people these days calling themselves clergy who haven’t the slightest idea what they are talking about.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 10:06:52 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Gamecock
a retiring Dutch bishop having either a senior moment or revealing his universalism--is proposing that people of all faiths simply refer to God as "Allah."

Welcome to Enigma Babylon One World Faith.

13 posted on 01/26/2014 10:08:42 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Gamecock
God doesn't care what he is called.

I think I'll call Him "Ray".

14 posted on 01/26/2014 10:09:02 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Gamecock

What a moronic dhimmi to come up with something like that


15 posted on 01/26/2014 10:10:12 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Gamecock

Never be a knight-nor a King—ever a disgraced Bishop.I AM that I AM is NOT the bloody false god of Islam.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 10:12:14 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Gamecock

They are not the same god. Mohammedans reject the God of the Bible.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 10:12:33 AM PST by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: struggle

We have a winner!


18 posted on 01/26/2014 10:15:25 AM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Gamecock

It certainly falls in line with the Catechism of the Catholic church, so there’s no surprise there.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 10:15:43 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: dfwgator

:-)


20 posted on 01/26/2014 10:15:45 AM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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