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Cuomo to Catholics: You’re Not Welcome in NY
The Catholic Thing ^ | January 19, 2014 | George J. Marlin

Posted on 01/19/2014 6:34:38 PM PST by NYer

Editor’s Note: On Sundays we usually try to focus on spiritual matters, but this column deals with such a direct and serious threat that we thought it urgent to bring it to you today. – Robert Royal 
 

I was born in New York State and have lived here for more than 61 years. During that time I have paid plenty in state and local taxes and have served the public in a number of capacities including two terms as Executive Director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

I am also a Catholic and a member of New York’s Conservative Party, have served on the transition teams of governors-elect George Pataki (R) and Andrew Cuomo (D), and have been a member of Cuomo’s Council of Economic and Fiscal Advisors.

Yet despite my public service and the large chunk of my earnings that have gone to support New York’s governmental maze, according to Governor Cuomo, I should move out of the Empire State.

Why?  Because I am pro-life, oppose same-sex marriage, and have doubts about Cuomo’s 2013 hastily prepared gun legislation (the SAFE Act) that permits you to buy a gun with a 10-round magazine, but bans using more than seven shots if you need to defend yourself.      

Here’s what Cuomo said this past Friday on “The Capital Pressroom,” an Albany radio talk show, about a large segment of NY voters:

Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay? Is that who they are?  Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.

In an unguarded moment, Governor Cuomo stated publicly what many on the Left have been privately thinking for years: that pro-life and pro-traditional marriage supporters are Ku Klux Klan-like bigots who should either shut up or get out.

Cuomo has not only written off millions of New York Christians and Jews (among others) as unfit citizens, he has yanked the welcome mat from under half the nation’s population, who, public opinion polls indicate, oppose abortion and same-sex marriage.

As for those who “have no place in the state of New York,” the person at the top of that list must be the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Timothy Dolan. That’s because Dolan has proudly followed in the footsteps of his predecessors who were unabashed defenders of Church teachings in the public square.

For instance, Cardinal Terence Cooke, NYC’s seventh archbishop (1968-1983), whose cause is being promoted for sainthood, publicly fought the passage of the state’s 1970 liberal abortion bill. And the week Roe v. Wade was handed down by the Supreme Court, he issued a pastoral letter that was read in every parish condemning abortion as a “fundamental moral evil.”  Cooke inaugurated the annual Respect Life week and established “Birth Right,” a service to help pregnant women who choose not to abort their babies.


           1977: Andrew Cuomo watches his father concede the New York City mayoral race.

As for “gay rights,” every year Cooke opposed proposed legislation in New York’s City Council that would have amended the administrative code to outlaw discrimination due to “sexual orientation or affectional preference.” You read that right.

A typical statement expressing the Church’s position, released by Cardinal Cooke in April 1978, reads:

If the bill has an underlying purpose, to advocate and gain approval of homosexual behavior and lifestyle, then there is no way in which the Catholic Church in the City of New York may find it acceptable. And there is no way in which we can remain silent on the issue.
 
The Catholic Church’s moral teaching differentiates between “orientation and “behavior” for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. While a person’s orientation is not subject to moral evaluation, there is no doubt that a person’s behavior is subject to evaluation. Homosexual behavior and an attendant homosexual life style is not in accord with Catholic moral teaching and is, in fact, harmful to all persons who become involved; heterosexuality is the norm for human behavior.

And lest we forget, in the mid-1970s Cooke had an ally in his fight against abortion and gay rights: Mario Cuomo, father of the current governor.

The New York Times reported during Cuomo the Elders unsuccessful 1974 primary run for lieutenant governor that he said in a televised debate that “he would have voted against the 1970 law that relaxed abortion curbs in the state.”  The New York Daily News and the Post also reported that, in his unsuccessful 1977 run for mayor, Mario said he would veto a gay rights bill “that would give homosexual teachers the right to proselytize or advocate their lifestyle.”

I wonder if Governor Andrew Cuomo, a baptized Catholic and a graduate of Archbishop Molloy High School and Fordham University, will demand that Cooke’s cause for canonization be, well, aborted because the cardinal was an “extremist” for defending the teachings of his Church. Will ask his father, himself a former governor, to leave the state for having politically incorrect thoughts forty years ago?

By claiming that people who disagree with his cultural views “have no place in the state of New York,” Cuomo has joined those whom historian Richard Hofstadter described as “totalitarian liberals,” people who employ illiberal means to achieve so-called liberal reforms.

Cardinal Dolan and the bishops of New York’s other eight dioceses have an obligation to respond and to condemn anyone – especially any Catholic public figure – who threatens those who adhere to Church doctrine.

Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George has predicted that he will die in his bed, his successor will die in prison, and his successor will die a martyr. We may not be quite there yet. But unless Church leaders and others act quickly and forcefully, Catholics and others of traditional moral views may find themselves not simply marginalized, but – if some politicians have their way – facing something very like exile in their own nation.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrewcuomo; banglist; catholicpoliticians; catholicvote; conservativeparty; cooke; cuomo; deathpanels; demagogicparty; georgepataki; homosexualagenda; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; ny; obamacare; policestate; prolife; religiouspersecution; romancatholicism; zerocare
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>George J. Marlin, Chairman of the Board of Aid to the Church in Need USA, is an editor of The Quotable Fulton Sheen and the author of The American Catholic VoterHis most recent book is Narcissist Nation: Reflections of a Blue-State Conservative.
 

1 posted on 01/19/2014 6:34:38 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/19/2014 6:35:10 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

Catholics to Cuomo: “Take a hike.”


3 posted on 01/19/2014 6:35:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer; Salvation

Cuomo self-identifies as a faithful Catholic, and the bishop of Albany and the Archbishop of New York obviously don’t disagree.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 6:37:43 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: NYer

How many NY Catholics still vote for these clowns? How many Christians vote for the party that boo God?

I just don’t understand it.


5 posted on 01/19/2014 6:41:33 PM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: NYer

“and have been a member of Cuomo’s Council of Economic and Fiscal Advisors.”

So why does this so called Catholic have anything to do with a Cuomo?


7 posted on 01/19/2014 6:42:44 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Liz; The Mayor; skully

Ping!


8 posted on 01/19/2014 6:44:42 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

Certainly the good bishop of Albany and the jolly archbishop of New York will set Coumo straight by lunch time tommorow. I should think.

Or, do they have a sense of humor about these things?


9 posted on 01/19/2014 6:48:32 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: NYer

10 posted on 01/19/2014 6:48:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Lol!


11 posted on 01/19/2014 6:49:31 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

What will it take before the church finally understands that there are times when some who call themselves Catholics are so vile, so filled with hate and evil and even murder, that excommunication is called for?

To just proclaim that the church does not excommunicate anymore, or that such individuals self-excommunicate, are truthfully “cop-outs”, and a betrayal of the laity, that they not know that wolves are permitted to wander amongst them. A shepherd should not do that to his flock.

On a single Sunday, without mention or warning, every Priest in the state should tell his congregation that Cuomo is profane, that Catholics should never again have commerce with him, lest their own souls be imperiled, and that he is among the enemies of the church, who seek its destruction.


12 posted on 01/19/2014 6:53:21 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: NYer

Cuomo is a Catholic himself.

NEW YORK, May 16, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – After New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan appeared to suggest during a radio interview this week that he may not view pro-abortion Governor Andrew Cuomo as a Catholic “in good standing,” the archdiocese has issued a statement saying that this is not the case, and that Dolan’s remark was misunderstood.

“Cardinal Dolan would not, and did not, suggest the governor might not be a Catholic in good standing going forward,” archdiocesan spokesman Joseph Zwilling said in a statement originally sent to the New York Times, and forwarded to LifeSiteNews.”


13 posted on 01/19/2014 6:56:20 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Andrew Cuomo: Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are.
Thanks NYer.
14 posted on 01/19/2014 6:56:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: cripplecreek

BTTT


15 posted on 01/19/2014 6:58:09 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SunkenCiv; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; mlizzy; Arthur McGowan; mc5cents; RichInOC; Prince of Space; ..
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

16 posted on 01/19/2014 6:58:23 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: NYer; All

I’m not a NYer so please bear with me.

Is Cuomo living in a self-deceptive fantasy world where liberals like him believe that their opinions reflect majority voter opinion? The reason that I ask is that I cannot see Cuomo pushing a voter referendum to decide issues like abortion for example. Or have NYers approved leftist issues like abortion through referendums?


17 posted on 01/19/2014 7:01:18 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: cripplecreek

Good one!


18 posted on 01/19/2014 7:01:42 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NYer

Ping


19 posted on 01/19/2014 7:02:35 PM PST by victim soul
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Catholic priests or Bishops cannot mention any candidate by name. They can speak to issues, but not endorse or lack to endorse a candidate. Otherwise they lose their tax-free status. It’s true of all churches, though, not just the Catholic ones.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 7:05:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

It was tough for him to be a bigger jerk than his father, but he did it.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 7:07:21 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: NYer
...Cuomo has joined those whom historian Richard Hofstadter described as “totalitarian liberals”...

As opposed to those other kinds of liberals... uh... wait a minute...

22 posted on 01/19/2014 7:09:02 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: NYer

When Paul Castellano , a big Mafia boss was murdered in 1985 by rival mobsters, Cardinal O’Connor denied him a Catholic burial and entombment in a Catholic cemetery due to his open, unrepentant criminal life. Cardinal Dolan needs to do some serious thinking and reflection.


23 posted on 01/19/2014 7:09:42 PM PST by allendale
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To: NYer

Cuomo is a Democrat and that’s how they think. Vote them out, vote them all out!


24 posted on 01/19/2014 7:09:53 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: NYer

Here to contact the nut:
http://www.governor.ny.gov/contact/GovernorContactForm.php


25 posted on 01/19/2014 7:19:59 PM PST by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: NYer

Here is the thread from last few days:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3112960/posts


26 posted on 01/19/2014 7:24:34 PM PST by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: NYer

PFL


27 posted on 01/19/2014 7:27:42 PM PST by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: ansel12

Notice the date of the exchange was last year. Cuomo’s statements, at that time, were mild by comparison to what he said this past Friday. Yet ... I have scoured the news links and fin absolutely nothing from Dolan since Friday. His silence is deafening. The old “slap on the back, wink & nod, happy go lucky” attitude will not cut it this time. He is a serious disappointment as archbishop.


28 posted on 01/19/2014 7:38:44 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

We are attacking him left and right, He is doing a mea culpa and we are not backing down. Face book has exploded.


29 posted on 01/19/2014 7:46:16 PM PST by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: NYer

The date of that article was months ago, we have generations of this.

The leading Catholic figures in America are almost all like Cuomo and are leaders in the political party of most Catholics, did he actually single out Catholics as not welcome in NY?


30 posted on 01/19/2014 7:52:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: RitaOK
Certainly the good bishop of Albany and the jolly archbishop of New York will set Coumo straight by lunch time tommorow. I should think. Or, do they have a sense of humor about these things?

I have to assume the "good bishop of Albany" has a sense of humor:

Albany Bishop Howard Hubbard says it is "unfair and imprudent" to conclude that Gov. Andrew Cuomo and his girlfriend, Sandra Lee, shouldn't receive Communion simply because they're living together.
-- from the thread Bishop: None of your business (Hubbard rejects Catholic expert's criticism of Gov. Cuomo)

31 posted on 01/19/2014 7:56:49 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

Here is a tweet from the actress Heaton

#Cuomo supports killing viable babies, exploiting poor women - still takes communion. #Gosnell #Carhart #Karpen #Brigham #Riley #Seletz
Patricia Heaton (@PatriciaHeaton) June 04, 2013


32 posted on 01/19/2014 8:05:54 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What will it take before the church finally understands that there are times when some who call themselves Catholics are so vile, so filled with hate and evil and even murder, that excommunication is called for?

Perhaps this is the (new) face of the Catholic Church...If it is not, shouldn't take long for your pope to renounce this guy...

33 posted on 01/19/2014 8:13:36 PM PST by Iscool
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To: NYer

And yet the RINOS on our team try to reach out and find common ground with these lefty idiots. When will they figure out that the Dems want to take out every last one of us who is a non-liberal. They don’t want to find consensus with us. They want to destroy us!


34 posted on 01/19/2014 8:14:49 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: NYer
Cardinal Dolan and the bishops of New York’s other eight dioceses have an obligation to respond and to condemn anyone – especially any Catholic public figure – who threatens those who adhere to Church doctrine.

Indeed!

35 posted on 01/19/2014 8:25:48 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Descended from a "First Supply" immigrant!)
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To: Amendment10
Is Cuomo living in a self-deceptive fantasy world where liberals like him believe that their opinions reflect majority voter opinion?

Unfortunately, it's not a fantasy. Do you happen to recall the last two presidential elections?

36 posted on 01/19/2014 8:26:34 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer

‘By claiming that people who disagree with his cultural views “have no place in the state of New York,” Cuomo has joined those whom historian Richard Hofstadter described as “totalitarian liberals,” people who employ illiberal means to achieve so-called liberal reforms.’

Exactly.


37 posted on 01/19/2014 8:27:14 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Add Nancy Pelosi, pundit Chris Matthews, Sen. Richard Durbin, SOS John Kerry, and all of the ‘Catholic’ members of the Democrat caucus to that list of people that no Catholic concerned about his soul should associate with.


38 posted on 01/19/2014 8:31:27 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Descended from a "First Supply" immigrant!)
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To: Salvation
Catholic priests or Bishops cannot mention any candidate by name.

That doesn't seem to be the rule for black churches that often turn their pulpits over to Dem candidates.

39 posted on 01/19/2014 8:33:05 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Descended from a "First Supply" immigrant!)
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To: HarleyD

You’re not alone.


40 posted on 01/19/2014 8:42:03 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: NYer

Die Conservatives sind unser Ungluck. Conservatives ‘raus.


41 posted on 01/19/2014 8:43:31 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: Unam Sanctam; All
Unfortunately, it's not a fantasy. Do you happen to recall the last two presidential elections?

Thank you for replying.

There is a basic "apples and oranges" problem in comparing wider 10th Amendment-protect state power issues with the issues concerning the much narrower powers that the states have delegated to the feds via the Constitution. More specifically, many low-information citizens do not understand the federal government's constitutionally limited powers. Consequently, such citizens do not understand that the federal government has no constitutional authority to address state power issues like public healthcare, abortion, gay marriage, etc..

In other words, the corrupt media helped to get Obama elected and reelected on promises, particularly "free" healthcare, which the federal government actually has no constitutional authority to address.

42 posted on 01/19/2014 8:52:30 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Jim Noble
Cuomo self-identifies as a faithful Catholic, and the bishop of Albany and the Archbishop of New York obviously don’t disagree.

It'd be great if they and the Pope took Catholic politicians like Couomo and excommunicated them, for starters.

Must feel that it cause more trouble than it's worth, but I cant figure out how they draw that conclusion.

43 posted on 01/19/2014 8:59:12 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Jim Noble

Judgement BEGINS at the pulpit.

(meaning those that DECEIVE their flock will be the first to feel our Father’s wrath.)


44 posted on 01/19/2014 9:10:14 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: NYer
"Notice the date of the exchange was last year. Cuomo’s statements, at that time, were mild by comparison to what he said this past Friday. Yet ... I have scoured the news links and find absolutely nothing from Dolan since Friday. His silence is deafening. The old “slap on the back, wink & nod, happy go lucky” attitude will not cut it this time. He is a serious disappointment as archbishop."

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Cuomo just unveiled his new ( "New York State Theme Song" ) for all pro-life Catholics, other pro-lifers, and anyone else who does not agree with Cuomo about anything.

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And here is "Dolan's usual 'Hail fellow well met' response to Cuomo".

Dolan and B-O

Dolan's Response to All Attacks Against the Church


45 posted on 01/19/2014 9:24:57 PM PST by Heart-Rest (Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:7)
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To: NYer

Mr. Marlin is most welcome here in the Lone Star state where all Christians who are conservative are welcome.

Come on down sir, the weather is nice and there are no state income taxes.


46 posted on 01/19/2014 9:41:20 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: NYer

BTW, great article. Conservative Catholics should be moving in droves to southern red states where your vote will count.


47 posted on 01/19/2014 9:43:36 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Amendment10

No but Cuomo and both parties voted in sodomite “marriage.” This was one of the few states that arrived at sodomite “marriage” by state representation. THAT is liberal. Even Californication required judicial fiat to overturn Prop 8.


48 posted on 01/19/2014 9:50:43 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: NYer

Cardinal Francis George is absolutely correct..........the Catholic Church is under assault AND adherents to the Faith WILL be IMPRISONED AND MARTYRED in this COUNTRY!!


49 posted on 01/20/2014 1:36:49 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer; The Mayor; Salvation; AuntB; Arthur Wildfire! March; Tennessee Nana; artichokegrower; ...
NY Gov Cuomo: "Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapons, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are, extreme conservatives have no place in the state of New York because that’s not who New Yorkers are."

(Cackle) when he got into the WH----Boobamba yelled "olly, olly, octen free---come out, come out wherever you are."

Every weirdo, and his mentally challenged cousin, tripped over themselves to come out of their little liberal man caves.

Cuomo's just another Loony Tune that found his inner moron, thanks to Boobamba.

The stunted growth of these "political (cough) visionaries" extends from A all the way to B.

50 posted on 01/20/2014 3:01:57 AM PST by Liz
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