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Kirk Commission (Church of Scotland) publishes civil partnership liturgy
Christian News ^ | April 23, 2013

Posted on 04/24/2013 1:18:23 PM PDT by NYer

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The report sets out liturgy for a civil partnership blessing, along with the traditional view of marriage.

A report for the Church of Scotland on same-sex relationships has suggested an order of service for a civil partnership blessing.

The liturgy contains ideas for scripture readings, including passages about David and Jonathan, and Ruth and Naomi.

The report by the special Theological Commission, which was appointed in 2011, also presents the traditional view of marriage as between a man and a woman.

Opinion

The Church of Scotland said the report described the breadth of theological opinion that existed and did not represent the views of the Church.

A spokesman said: “On the one hand the report offers the Church a way of allowing the ordination of ministers in same-sex relationships who have entered into a civil partnership, while protecting both individuals and congregations who in conscience do not agree with the theological principles which underpin that choice.

“On the other hand the report, while reaffirming its belief that homophobia is sinful, invites the Church to reaffirm its traditional stance that the only appropriate expression of sexual activity should be within marriage between one man and one woman.”

Report

The report does not offer any recommendations.

The Church of Scotland’s governing body will vote in May on the future position of the Kirk based on the report.

Revd John Chalmers, the principal clerk to the General Assembly, said: “The Report and the options which it provides are offered at this stage without comment from the convener or members of the commission; it will be for the General Assembly alone, based on the substance of the theological arguments to come to a mind on this matter.”

He added: “In the meantime, the report, which is wide ranging and detailed, is commended to the whole Church for prayerful study and consideration.”


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antiprotestantrants; calvinism; homosexual; predestination; reformation; scripture

1 posted on 04/24/2013 1:18:23 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
While the Church of Scotland traces its roots back to the earliest Christians in Scotland, its identity was principally shaped by the Scottish Reformation of 1560. At that point, the church in Scotland broke with Rome, in a process of Protestant reform led, among others, by John Knox. It reformed its doctrines and government, drawing on the principles of John Calvin which Knox had been exposed to while living in Geneva, Switzerland. In 1560, the Scottish Parliament abolished papal jurisdiction and approved Calvin's Confession of Faith, but did not accept many of the principles laid out in Knox's First Book of Discipline, which argued, among other things, that all of the assets of the old church should pass to the new. Read More
2 posted on 04/24/2013 1:19:06 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

Another “church” people should stay away from


3 posted on 04/24/2013 1:19:12 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Naomi and Ruth were mother-in-law and daughter-in-law, and THIS is the Biblical pair that this “church” highlights in a (presumably) lesbian marriage?! Shouldn't that tell them that there are no romantic female couples in the Bible and that there's a very good reason for that?
4 posted on 04/24/2013 1:22:44 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: NYer

For most non-Catholic churches, go along to get along always trumps everything else.

Whether it’s reversing themselves to teach contraception is no problem after four hundred years of teaching that it was a sin or reversing themselves and teaching that homosexual acts aren’t sin, they alway seem to adapt to whatever the society they’re in finds appealing.


5 posted on 04/24/2013 1:24:24 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: utahagen

bump


6 posted on 04/24/2013 1:27:28 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer
A spokesman said: “On the one hand the report offers the Church a way of allowing the ordination of ministers in same-sex relationships who have entered into a civil partnership, while protecting both individuals and congregations who in conscience do not agree with the theological principles which underpin that choice.

“On the other hand the report, while reaffirming its belief that homophobia is sinful, invites the Church to reaffirm its traditional stance that the only appropriate expression of sexual activity should be within marriage between one man and one woman.”

The work of theological quislings who think they have found a way to have their cake and eat it too.

7 posted on 04/24/2013 1:29:35 PM PDT by pgkdan (Some taglines never go away....)
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To: NYer

Where can a copy of this liturgical wonder be found ?


8 posted on 04/24/2013 1:35:35 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: NYer

“Dae ye, Bruce, tak’ ye, Bruce, tae dae gantin’, unnatural an’ sinful things tae each other afair ye gie fed up an’ bugger some other Bruce?”

(via the English to Scottish translator at whoohoo.co.uk)


9 posted on 04/24/2013 1:38:37 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: utahagen

I imagine the Book of Ruth was chosen because it indicates that oral sex outside of marriage isn’t wrong. In fact, it is the quickest way to get a husband.


10 posted on 04/24/2013 1:50:27 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: stop_fascism

not really


11 posted on 04/24/2013 1:51:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Read it again. Naomi, Ruth’s mother-in-law instructs her to sneak into where Baoz is sleeping and to give him a hummer. Boaz’s orgasm awakens him, and he is delighted. Ruth, being a Moabite (i.e. descendent of the incestuous relationship between Lot and his daughter) must have been greatly skilled. At least, Boaz says so. He offers to marry Ruth if the guy with a better claim to her let’s her go. Then he talks that guy out of marrying her. Thus begins the line that leads to David (and the lord himself).


12 posted on 04/24/2013 2:05:59 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: NYer

So I guess all those stories about him and Spock were true after all ...


13 posted on 04/24/2013 2:08:11 PM PDT by x
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To: stop_fascism

Please.

That is so stupid.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 2:12:19 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

yes, stupid, that is some kind of interpretation!!! Sheesh.


15 posted on 04/24/2013 2:21:56 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Rashputin

“For most non-Catholic churches, go along to get along always trumps everything else.”

Baloney. What is the point in painting such a broad brush statement? There is a world of a difference between liberal and conservative churches of all types.


16 posted on 04/24/2013 2:25:03 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

The RCC isn’t exactly conservative on border issues and gun issues is it? It’s the opposite isn’t it?


17 posted on 04/24/2013 2:26:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer

But does John Knox approve this message?


18 posted on 04/24/2013 2:48:33 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Before you can be sure... You must read John Knox "The First Blast, Against the Monstrous Regiment of Women".

This could have a lot to do with why the queens chased him around the island so much.
19 posted on 04/24/2013 3:41:58 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: plain talk
Rotted, smelly, baloney with a cherry on top back at ya'.

Delude yourself all you like, but laying out the facts about the characteristics of the 70% of non-Catholic "Christians" in this country or anything else isn't "painting with a broad brush". It's correctly characterizing the majority.

The vast majority (that means over seventy-five percent or better for those of you in Rio Linda) of the people who claim to be Christian in this country are in churches that are going along with both the ordination of queers and the marrying of queers to one another and whatever else is popular in their area. They reflect the society they're in, not Jesus Christ.

Since another ten or twelve percent of those who claim to be Christian are not Christian to begin with, the remaining twenty percent or less are whistling past the graveyard of Protestant and Protestant derived "Christianity" in this country to hide from reality.

20 posted on 04/24/2013 4:16:48 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: red irish; GeronL

Have you read the Book of Ruth? Here’s a good exegesis:

http://alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Sex%20and%20family/The%20Misthos%20and%20Dunamis%20of%20Ruth.htm


21 posted on 04/24/2013 4:22:31 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: Rashputin; All
Delude yourself all you like, but laying out the facts about the characteristics of the 70% of non-Catholic "Christians" in this country or anything else isn't "painting with a broad brush". It's correctly characterizing the majority. The vast majority (that means over seventy-five percent or better for those of you in Rio Linda) of the people who claim to be Christian in this country are in churches that are going along with both the ordination of queers and the marrying of queers to one another and whatever else is popular in their area. They reflect the society they're in, not Jesus Christ. Since another ten or twelve percent of those who claim to be Christian are not Christian to begin with, the remaining twenty percent or less are whistling past the graveyard of Protestant and Protestant derived "Christianity" in this country to hide from reality.

Thanks for spelling our your feelings for all to see.

22 posted on 04/24/2013 4:37:22 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: NYer

John Knox is rolling in his grave.


23 posted on 04/24/2013 4:39:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: plain talk
Facts aren’t my “feelings”, they’re facts.
24 posted on 04/24/2013 5:40:04 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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