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More Catholics Seek ‘De-Baptism’ Over Pope’s Gay Marriage Remarks
Christian Post ^ | 12-28-12 | By Audrey Barrick

Posted on 01/02/2013 10:59:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Venturer

amen


61 posted on 01/03/2013 4:59:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MomwithHope
It’s all about sanctifying grace, the grace that comes through the sacraments.

Read the above.

62 posted on 01/03/2013 4:59:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 353FMG
Don’t know what you’re talking about — infant baptism when done correctly is as valid as baptism by immersion.

HMMMmmm...

63 posted on 01/03/2013 5:02:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212; chesley; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice
As one in need of grace, i do not want to be hard on struggling believers but such men as Kennedy were critically in error and unrepentant, and illustrates what Rome effectually conveys in part.

It isn't a matter of being hard on struggling believers. It is a matter of being consistent on theological principles. One cannot preach against lying and then simply ignore lying within the church. One cannot preach a holiness and allow corruption to fester in their mist. People in the church should be aghast. This was the position of the Corinthians that Paul condemned in 1 Cor 5 calling the Corinthians "puffed up" when they should be mourning.

But.... 2Co 7:3 I speak not this to condemn you: for I have said before, that ye are in our hearts to die and live with you. 2Co 7:4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.

64 posted on 01/03/2013 5:57:06 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: daniel1212
Very interesting!

Thanks for the response.

Personally, I believe that Kennedy is this very instant being instructed by Satan as to his many errors in life. But that is for God to judge, not me.

65 posted on 01/03/2013 5:58:39 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: HarleyD

No, no no Harley! You can’t start quoting scripture!

And whatever you do, don’t look to scripture where it compares circumcision to baptism. And uncircumcision, SKIP THAT PART! And definitely skip all that about human tradition, oh my! Too confusing without a inspired interpreter... (which none of the Catholics here are, unless that cheeky Freeper BennyXVI has finally unlurked.)

Rather turn to canon law, and the vast, unconfusing, unending and constantly revised, dust covered volumes of what the Roman Catholic Church has taught from the time of Peter the First (except when it didn’t... just ignore that part.)

/sarc off


66 posted on 01/03/2013 7:49:38 AM PST by Ottofire (Philippians 1:21: For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.)
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To: Ottofire
No, no no Harley! You can’t start quoting scripture!

Hey, I was reading some of Chrysostom's writings yesterday. I was very impress with what he had to say about scripture such as...

These are a few chestnuts. I'm waiting for another sola scriptura discussion. ;O)
67 posted on 01/03/2013 10:49:58 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: SeekAndFind
I am not sure how his being Baptized as an infant will save him.

It doesn't. A baby cannot speak w/their mouth nor believe in their heart something they have no knowledge of.

"That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved". Romans 10:9

68 posted on 01/03/2013 11:47:36 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: chesley
Personally, I believe that Kennedy is this very instant being instructed by Satan as to his many errors in life.

Actually, contrary to popular conception, there is nothing in Scripture that i know of that supports the idea that lost souls go to be with the devil at death, much less that they torment souls,

Instead, they are simply shown as tormented (Lk. 16:19-33) while they await the final judgment by the Lord Jesus, and in which the devil himself will be sentenced, (Mt. 25:31-46; Rv. 20:-10-15) and in which believers will be part of the jury. (1Cor. 6:2)

To God be the glory, and the message now is, "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; " (Acts 3:19)

69 posted on 01/03/2013 11:51:22 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: HarleyD

Yes, the principle is the issue.


70 posted on 01/03/2013 11:52:48 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
Instead, they are simply shown as tormented (Lk. 16:19-33) while they await the final judgment by the Lord Jesus, and in which the devil himself will be sentenced, (Mt. 25:31-46; Rv. 20:-10-15) and in which believers will be part of the jury.

Six of one; half-a-dozen of the other. I was using it merely as a figure of speech. Although I seriously doubt any of the Kennedy boys made it to the pearly gates. Still, that's for God to determine, not me.

71 posted on 01/03/2013 11:58:17 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: SeekAndFind
My question has more to do with COUNTING the number of adherents.

I seriously doubt that this fine upstanding individual is a registered member of any parish, so I seriously doubt that the Church counts him in any sort of census of members. For the first few years of my adult life, I probably wasn't 'counted' either ... even though I was a regular participant in the life of the Church.

I have no idea at all as to what this fine upstanding individual would tell a public opinion pollster, if asked his religious affiliation. If this FUI responded 'Catholic', the pollster would record such, regardless of the FUI's actual beliefs and practices. If the FUI claimed to worship the Great Purple Horned Toad ...

72 posted on 01/03/2013 11:59:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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