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| Deacon Greg Kandra
Posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:20 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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The Waldorf Astoria, New York
October 18, 2012
Although he again lost Protestant voters to his GOP opponent, Obama held onto his advantages among Catholic and Jewish voters. He won 70 percent of the Jewish vote, down from 78 percent in 2008, and he won Catholic voters 50 percent to 47 percent. Romney carried Protestant voters by a 13-point margin, 56 percent to 43 percent. (Source:
Politico)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Kick out the pro abort politicians. That’s a start.
To: TigerClaws
I guess abortion, fags, condoms and free birth control matter more to catholic women than REAL things—they again voted with their “female parts” after all...
So long, america...
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:28:46 AM PST
by
Rca2000
( NEVER underestimate the power of "one little election", in WI.....)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The American bishops let the ‘seamless garment’ social justice doctrine work its poison for so long, now they are mystified when Catholics help re-elect the most anti-Catholic president there ever was.
The Early Lessons
This one hurt.
I advised my followers on Twitter last night that the next time I wrote a post about the polls being wrong, somebody should punch me in the ear.
So what does this mean? Many many people, including people smarter than me about these things, expected this to be a turnout election. We expected the turnout to be close to even with either a slight edge to Democrats or a slight edge to Republicans. Either way, most were in a agreement that it wouldn't be anything like 2008. We were wrong. Exit polls have it pegged at D+6, fairly close to 2008.
So, what does this mean. It means that Republicans can no longer win national elections by turning out the base alone. They have to start convincing more people that they have the answers. They can no longer continue to write off blacks and Latinos as un-winnable and expect to win. There is just not enough base to do it.
Another lesson is that Catholics just don't care in the slightest about the persecution initiated by this President and about the unborn. Every indication is that Catholics have granted an imprimatur for their own oppression. The reasons for this are a topic for another post.
Another key lesson Republicans should learn is about the nominating process. First, I don't think that Mitt Romney is a bad man or that he was a particularly bad candidate. But, during the primary process conservatives looking for any alternative but Mitt bounced from candidate to candidate. For this we were harangued by party leadership and pundits alike that we had to nominate Mitt because he is 'electable.' To all those who beat us up over this back then, you know what you can go do to yourself.
I do not understand this ridiculous notion that we should nominate the candidate we like least so that others will like him. If we don't like him, why the hell should anybody else? Republican moderates lose, period. I know the mantra by the Republican establishment will blame this on social conservatives and urge us to nominate someone even more moderate next time. They are idiots.
And the bottom line for me, if Americans would not reject this President under these circumstances, with a record of such unmitigated failure and with the prospect of country destroying debt looming, there may be no coming back for America. I am serious about that. Seriously, what will it take for Americans to change course? You would have to imagine that whatever it is it will be too late. I mean, look at Greece. They are past the point of no return and their country is in ruins and they still keep going. We. Are. Doomed.
I am buying beer, bullets, and a bus ticket to Texas and maybe somebody someday will pick the good fight.
Posted by Patrick Archbold
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
"Thanks, lady parts.. BLAM!!"
As expected, at 8.40 this morning the following congratulatory letter to President Obama on his re-election was released by the USCCB president, Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, writing in the name of the nation's bishops. (Emphasis original.)
* * *
Dear President Obama,
In my capacity as President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, I write to express my congratulations on your re-election as President of the United States. The people of our country have again entrusted you with a great responsibility. The Catholic Bishops of the United States offer our prayers that God will give you strength and wisdom to meet the difficult challenges that face America.
In particular, we pray that you will exercise your office to pursue the common good, especially in care of the most vulnerable among us, including the unborn, the poor, and the immigrant. We will continue to stand in defense of life, marriage, and our first, most cherished liberty, religious freedom. We pray, too, that you will help restore a sense of civility to the public order, so our public conversations may be imbued with respect and charity toward everyone.
May God bless you and Vice President Biden as you prepare for your second term in service to our country and its citizens.
Sincerely yours,
Timothy Cardinal Dolan
Archbishop of New York
President
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
* * *
Beyond the statement of the domestic church leadership, in something of a surprise, it emerged overnight that the Pope had sent his own well-wishes to Obama, expressing his prayers along with the hope that "the ideals of liberty and justice which guided the founders" of the US "might continue to shine forth along the nation's path."
Announced by the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Fr Federico Lombardi, the complete text of the papal telegram was not made public.
"We all wish President Obama well," Lombardi said, "that he might serve law and justice for the good and the growth of every person, respecting human values and spiritual essentials, in the promotion of a culture of life and religious freedom... and effectively promote integral human development, justice and peace in the world."
In what'll now be midway through a second Obama term, Benedict XVI has indicated his intent to make the second Stateside visit of his seven-year pontificate. Should it pan out, the journey will be centered on Philadelphia, which was designated in June as the host-city of the next World Meeting of Families, slated to take place at some point during the summer of 2015.
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To: Rca2000
they again voted with their female parts after all...
What do we think about guys who think with their "little head"? Nothing nice.
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:34:50 AM PST
by
BitWielder1
(Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Just goes to show how seriously Catholics take their own doctrine... about as seriously as those envelopes that fill the baskets with their loose change every Sunday (at least every Sunday that they attend).
;-\
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:37:44 AM PST
by
Gargantua
("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
To: Lou Budvis
Some serious excommunication needs to happen, starting at the top.
Many people are happy to break the rules as long they can get away with it.
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:37:53 AM PST
by
Arm_Bears
(Be cheerful, be confident, and VOTE!!)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
It actually makes sense to me: the lead in to the Antichrist and the False Prophet.
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: Lou Budvis
The American bishops let the seamless garment social justice doctrine work its poison for so long Correct.
When the leaders of the church advocate for class warfare, it's to be expected the rank and rile will follow suit. It's shocking to me how Catholic voters continue to favor social justice over the loss of religious freedom, abortion measures and sexual perversion the Democrats advocate.
I'm very glad to see the Protestants are still voting for true justice (not social justice) by a 13 point margin.
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
The US Catholic Church: anti-abortion, anti-gay-marriage, but pro-Obama. What a chaotic world!
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:40:26 AM PST
by
kevao
(Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
To: TigerClaws
What???
Kick out the pro-abortion political Catholics. They are the ones who helped put them in power.
Oh, not so fast. Trying to grow the church...right?
To: Rca2000
Maybe we should nominate someone who isn’t supporting abortion and contraception if we want to win the Catholic vote.
Romney had fewer votes than McCain did, despite population growth.
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
“It means that Republicans can no longer win national elections by turning out the base alone.
If the base would have turned out, we would have won last night. Obama got 58 million votes. Romney got about 56 million. John McCain got 59 million.
Obama was down a solid 10 million from his 2008 performance.
Our base supported guys like that nut in Virginia. They supported Gary Johnson here and there. They said Jesus didn’t want them to vote for a Mormon and stayed home. Others said Romneycare is the same as Obamacare and that there was no difference.
The people who for many reasons stayed home gave us Obama II. No matter what catholics did, if everyone voted for McCain would have come out, we would be rid of Obama this morning. Goood work A-holes.
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:45:44 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
To: servantboy777
That came out soooo wrong. Sorry, I’m froathing at the mouth I’m so upset.
What needs to happen is to kick out those so-called Catholics who voted for politicians that support gay marriage, abortion and freakin boo’d when they were forced by political polling to place Our Lord back into their DNC platform.
Then...oh, not so fast. Trying to grow the church..right?
Breath...breath servantboy...breath!
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I am ashamed of my fellow Catholics and Americans who voted for this Marxist. Neither of these groups of people are either true Catholics or true Americans.
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:51:28 AM PST
by
diamond6
(Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free: http://www.hulu.com/#!watch/409925)
To: JCBreckenridge
So in your world, people upset about Romney not being strongly enough against Abortion and contraception, decided to show their displeasure
,,,by voting for Obama? Righhhhhhht
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posted on
11/07/2012 8:51:53 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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