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Obama wins with the Catholic vote ^ | 11/7/12 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:20 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Obama wins with the Catholic vote

November 7, 2012 By

Details, from Catholic News Agency:

The Catholic vote was divided much as was the rest of the nation’s voters, leaning slightly in favor of Obama. A final Gallup poll, reflecting tracking from Nov. 1 to 4, showed Catholics favoring Obama by 52 to 45 percent.

“The Catholic vote, like any number of votes, does have the potential to make an impact,” said Gregory Smith, a senior researcher who specializes in Catholic politics at the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life.

While they do not vote as a unified group, Catholics are significant in elections because of their large numbers, making up approximately one in four U.S. voters, he said.

Smith said it is difficult to pinpoint what effect the contraception mandate and religious freedom issues are having on the Catholic vote this year.

And there’s this:

In his concession speech Tuesday night, Romney encouraged fellow Republicans to join him in praying for President Obama “and for this great nation.”

“We look for our pastors, priests, rabbis, and counselors of all kinds to testify of the enduring principles upon which our society is built: honesty, charity, integrity and family,” he said.

From the Catholic Sentinel:

The vote is still being parsed, but experts think the majority of the Catholic vote went for President Obama. Catholics who attend Mass weekly seem to have favored Romney.

Catholics represent more than a quarter of the electorate and have voted for the winner of the popular vote in every presidential election since at least 1972. Both campaigns conducted intense outreach to Catholic voters and had Catholic vice presidential nominees. Meanwhile, Hispanic voters also broke heavily for Obama by a 39-point margin.

Exit polls noted that the economy was a top issue and voters were evenly split over which man would do better at fixing it. But the president was seen by voters as more empathetic, some polls said.

It appeared Republicans would retain their majority in the House, and that Democrats would hold their lead  in the Senate.

It’s close, but Washington state voters appear to have approved same sex marriage in their state. Voters in Maryland and Maine made the same choice. That breaks a string of 32 losses in various states, including Oregon.

In all three states, the electorate countered an effort by Catholic bishops, who argued that marriage must abide by natural law. Baltimore Archbishop William Lori had priests read a letter in defense of traditional marriage from the pulpit.

Minnesota voters rejected a measure that would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

And from Huffington Post:

Despite strong assaults about everything from what opponents have called a “war on religion” for his healthcare reform policy’s provisions on contraception coverage and pastors’ protests against his support of same-sex marriage to questions over the his support of Israel and his relationship with Jewish voters, President Barack Obama was reelected to a second term Tuesday night with support from religious and especially nonreligious voters.

Obama carried Electoral College votes in several battleground states where religious voters were key parts of the electorate, including Catholic-heavy Ohio, evangelical-heavy Iowa, and Virignia. Another swing stage with a large population of religious voters, Florida, was too close to call by early Wednesday morning.

In his concession speech from Boston, Republican challenger and former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney congratulated Obama, saying it was a time of “great challenges” in America and that “I pray the president will be successful in guiding our nation.” He thanked supporters for their prayers and said Americans will “look to our pastors and priest and rabbis and counselors of all kinds” as the nation moves on from the election. “Ann I join you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation,” he said, asking God to “bless America.”

Speaking at his victory speech in Chicago, Obama thanked supporters and “every American who participated in this election,” saying that voters “reaffirmed the spirit that triumphs.” Returning to his motivational, pastor-like tone that was common in his first campaign, Obama referenced the American “belief that our destiny is shared” and said a sense of “love, charity, duty and patriotism” is the hallmark of the nation’s culture.

“Together, with your help and God’s grace we will continue our journey forward and remind the world just why it is that we live in the greatest nation on Earth. God bless you. God bless these United States,” Obama said.

Initial exit polls — which are expected to change through Wednesday as more results come in — showed a mix bag of support for Obama and Romney among religious voters. Among people who said they attend religious services weekly, for example, exit polls indicated Romney took a significant lead. But among voters who said they attend services “occasionally” or “never,” Obama had large leads.

Early exit poll results also showed Obama losing the overall white evangelical vote to Romney, but winning the overall Catholic vote by just a few points. Among Jewish voters, initial exit polls showed Obama having an overwhelming lead over Romney, but preliminary results also showed him winning a smaller percentage of the Jewish vote than he did four years ago.

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Although he again lost Protestant voters to his GOP opponent, Obama held onto his advantages among Catholic and Jewish voters. He won 70 percent of the Jewish vote, down from 78 percent in 2008, and he won Catholic voters 50 percent to 47 percent. Romney carried Protestant voters by a 13-point margin, 56 percent to 43 percent. (Source: Politico)

1 posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:25 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Kick out the pro abort politicians. That’s a start.

2 posted on 11/07/2012 8:25:04 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

I guess abortion, fags, condoms and free birth control matter more to catholic women than REAL things—they again voted with their “female parts” after all...

So long, america...

3 posted on 11/07/2012 8:28:46 AM PST by Rca2000 ( NEVER underestimate the power of "one little election", in WI.....)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

The American bishops let the ‘seamless garment’ social justice doctrine work its poison for so long, now they are mystified when Catholics help re-elect the most anti-Catholic president there ever was.

4 posted on 11/07/2012 8:29:03 AM PST by Lou Budvis
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The Early Lessons

This one hurt.

I advised my followers on Twitter last night that the next time I wrote a post about the polls being wrong, somebody should punch me in the ear.

So what does this mean? Many many people, including people smarter than me about these things, expected this to be a turnout election. We expected the turnout to be close to even with either a slight edge to Democrats or a slight edge to Republicans. Either way, most were in a agreement that it wouldn't be anything like 2008. We were wrong. Exit polls have it pegged at D+6, fairly close to 2008.

So, what does this mean. It means that Republicans can no longer win national elections by turning out the base alone. They have to start convincing more people that they have the answers. They can no longer continue to write off blacks and Latinos as un-winnable and expect to win. There is just not enough base to do it.

Another lesson is that Catholics just don't care in the slightest about the persecution initiated by this President and about the unborn. Every indication is that Catholics have granted an imprimatur for their own oppression. The reasons for this are a topic for another post.

Another key lesson Republicans should learn is about the nominating process. First, I don't think that Mitt Romney is a bad man or that he was a particularly bad candidate. But, during the primary process conservatives looking for any alternative but Mitt bounced from candidate to candidate. For this we were harangued by party leadership and pundits alike that we had to nominate Mitt because he is 'electable.' To all those who beat us up over this back then, you know what you can go do to yourself.

I do not understand this ridiculous notion that we should nominate the candidate we like least so that others will like him. If we don't like him, why the hell should anybody else? Republican moderates lose, period. I know the mantra by the Republican establishment will blame this on social conservatives and urge us to nominate someone even more moderate next time. They are idiots.

And the bottom line for me, if Americans would not reject this President under these circumstances, with a record of such unmitigated failure and with the prospect of country destroying debt looming, there may be no coming back for America. I am serious about that. Seriously, what will it take for Americans to change course? You would have to imagine that whatever it is it will be too late. I mean, look at Greece. They are past the point of no return and their country is in ruins and they still keep going. We. Are. Doomed.

I am buying beer, bullets, and a bus ticket to Texas and maybe somebody someday will pick the good fight.

Posted by Patrick Archbold

5 posted on 11/07/2012 8:30:23 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

"Thanks, lady parts.. BLAM!!"

6 posted on 11/07/2012 8:33:16 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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Wednesday, November 07, 2012

Bishops to Obama: In Second Term, "We Will Continue to Stand In Defense"

As expected, at 8.40 this morning the following congratulatory letter to President Obama on his re-election was released by the USCCB president, Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, writing in the name of the nation's bishops. (Emphasis original.)

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Dear President Obama,             
             In my capacity as President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, I write to express my congratulations on your re-election as President of the United States.  The people of our country have again entrusted you with a great responsibility.  The Catholic Bishops of the United States offer our prayers that God will give you strength and wisdom to meet the difficult challenges that face America. 
            In particular, we pray that you will exercise your office to pursue the common good, especially in care of the most vulnerable among us, including the unborn, the poor, and the immigrant.  We will continue to stand in defense of life, marriage, and our first, most cherished liberty, religious freedom.  We pray, too, that you will help restore a sense of civility to the public order, so our public conversations may be imbued with respect and charity toward everyone. 
            May God bless you and Vice President Biden as you prepare for your second term in service to our country and its citizens.                 
Sincerely yours,

Timothy Cardinal Dolan
Archbishop of New York
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops

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Beyond the statement of the domestic church leadership, in something of a surprise, it emerged overnight that the Pope had sent his own well-wishes to Obama, expressing his prayers along with the hope that "the ideals of liberty and justice which guided the founders" of the US "might continue to shine forth along the nation's path."

Announced by the Vatican spokesman, Jesuit Fr Federico Lombardi, the complete text of the papal telegram was not made public.

"We all wish President Obama well," Lombardi said, "that he might serve law and justice for the good and the growth of every person, respecting human values and spiritual essentials, in the promotion of a culture of life and religious freedom... and effectively promote integral human development, justice and peace in the world."

In what'll now be midway through a second Obama term, Benedict XVI has indicated his intent to make the second Stateside visit of his seven-year pontificate. Should it pan out, the journey will be centered on Philadelphia, which was designated in June as the host-city of the next World Meeting of Families, slated to take place at some point during the summer of 2015.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 8:34:14 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Rca2000
they again voted with their “female parts” after all...

What do we think about guys who think with their "little head"? Nothing nice.

8 posted on 11/07/2012 8:34:50 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Just goes to show how seriously Catholics take their own doctrine... about as seriously as those envelopes that fill the baskets with their loose change every Sunday (at least every Sunday that they attend).


9 posted on 11/07/2012 8:37:44 AM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: Lou Budvis

Some serious excommunication needs to happen, starting at the top.

Many people are happy to break the rules as long they can get away with it.

10 posted on 11/07/2012 8:37:53 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Be cheerful, be confident, and VOTE!!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

It actually makes sense to me: the lead in to the Antichrist and the False Prophet.

11 posted on 11/07/2012 8:39:02 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: Lou Budvis
The American bishops let the ‘seamless garment’ social justice doctrine work its poison for so long


When the leaders of the church advocate for class warfare, it's to be expected the rank and rile will follow suit. It's shocking to me how Catholic voters continue to favor social justice over the loss of religious freedom, abortion measures and sexual perversion the Democrats advocate.

I'm very glad to see the Protestants are still voting for true justice (not social justice) by a 13 point margin.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

The US Catholic Church: anti-abortion, anti-gay-marriage, but pro-Obama. What a chaotic world!

14 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:26 AM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: TigerClaws


Kick out the pro-abortion political Catholics. They are the ones who helped put them in power.

Oh, not so fast. Trying to grow the church...right?

15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:39 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Rca2000

Maybe we should nominate someone who isn’t supporting abortion and contraception if we want to win the Catholic vote.

Romney had fewer votes than McCain did, despite population growth.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 8:42:08 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“It means that Republicans can no longer win national elections by turning out the base alone.

If the base would have turned out, we would have won last night. Obama got 58 million votes. Romney got about 56 million. John McCain got 59 million.
Obama was down a solid 10 million from his 2008 performance.

Our base supported guys like that nut in Virginia. They supported Gary Johnson here and there. They said Jesus didn’t want them to vote for a Mormon and stayed home. Others said Romneycare is the same as Obamacare and that there was no difference.

The people who for many reasons stayed home gave us Obama II. No matter what catholics did, if everyone voted for McCain would have come out, we would be rid of Obama this morning. Goood work A-holes.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 8:45:44 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: servantboy777

That came out soooo wrong. Sorry, I’m froathing at the mouth I’m so upset.

What needs to happen is to kick out those so-called Catholics who voted for politicians that support gay marriage, abortion and freakin boo’d when they were forced by political polling to place Our Lord back into their DNC platform.

Then...oh, not so fast. Trying to grow the church..right?

Breath...breath servantboy...breath!

18 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:29 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I am ashamed of my fellow Catholics and Americans who voted for this Marxist. Neither of these groups of people are either true Catholics or true Americans.

19 posted on 11/07/2012 8:51:28 AM PST by diamond6 (Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free:!watch/409925)
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To: JCBreckenridge

So in your world, people upset about Romney not being strongly enough against Abortion and contraception, decided to show their displeasure

,,,by voting for Obama? Righhhhhhht

20 posted on 11/07/2012 8:51:53 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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