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Over 50 U.S. churches to hold Qur'an readings
Jihad Watch ^ | May 18, 2011

Posted on 05/19/2011 12:49:09 PM PDT by NYer

“We want to send a message to the world,” said Tad Stahnke, director of policy and programs for Human Rights First, “that Americans do respect religious differences and reject religious bigotry and the demonization of Islam or any other religion.”

Do the Qur'an readings below constitute demonization of Christianity? Would Tad Stahnke care to explain why not?

Here are some readings that the congregants in the various churches might enjoy:

Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: "From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done." -- Qur'an 5:14

Jesus is not the Son of God: "O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender." -- Qur'an 4:171

"It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is." -- Qur'an 19:35

Those who believe that Jesus is God's Son are accursed: "The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! " -- Qur'an 9:30

Jesus was not crucified: "And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain." -- Qur'an 4:157

"Pulpit pals: Christians, Jews, Muslims plan shared worship," by Adelle M. Banks for Religion News Service, May 17 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

Religious and human rights activists are asking U.S. churches to invite Jewish and Muslim clergy to their sanctuaries to read from sacred texts next month in an initiative designed to counter anti-Muslim bigotry.

The June 26 initiative, called “Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding,” is co-sponsored by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First. Leaders of the two Washington-based groups said the event hopes to demonstrate respect for Islam in the wake of Quran burnings in recent months.

“As a Christian minister who is a pastor in a local congregation, it is important to me for our nation and our world to know that not all Christians promote hate, attack religions different from their own and seek to desecrate the scripture of others,” the Rev. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance, said Tuesday.

More than 50 churches in 26 states already have committed to the initiative, including the Washington National Cathedral.

Tad Stahnke, director of policy and programs for Human Rights First, said he hopes the initiative will draw attention to religious freedom and counter negative stereotypes of Christian leaders making anti-Muslim statements.

“We want to send a message to the world,” he said, “that Americans do respect religious differences and reject religious bigotry and the demonization of Islam or any other religion.”



TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostate; christian; christiannot; cino; corruption; crushislam; dhimmi; dhimmitude; islam; koran; moralabsolutes; quran
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1 posted on 05/19/2011 12:49:12 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

How many Mosques are holding Bible readings??

These buildings should be torn down, they are no longer functioning properly.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 12:51:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: NYer

And when will their bff Muslims read the Bible in their mosques? When Hell freezes over...but then most of these phony, Oprah-inspired “churches” don’t believe there is a Hell anyway.


3 posted on 05/19/2011 12:52:44 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: GeronL; NYer

I fully support this, as long as the readers wipe their butt with the koran and then burn it.


4 posted on 05/19/2011 12:53:25 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: NYer
There is no mythical "separation of church and state" under Islam.

Islam IS the state.

5 posted on 05/19/2011 12:53:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: NYer

ping


6 posted on 05/19/2011 12:56:34 PM PDT by Phlyer
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To: NYer

Morons. He will defend “any other religion,” no matter what?

Is Satanism OK, then, Rev. Bozo? After all, we wouldn’t want to demonize Satan, would we? That would be mean!


7 posted on 05/19/2011 12:59:31 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: NYer

And whomever goes to these “churches” after this had might as well stop pretending like they even know who Jesus is.


8 posted on 05/19/2011 12:59:57 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: NYer

Reading a book that denies Christ is a desecration of what is supposed to be a temple of Christ.


9 posted on 05/19/2011 1:00:09 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Illinois has become California without the climate or the glamor)
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To: GeronL
How many Mosques are holding Bible readings??

How many of these "50 churches" are holding Bible readings? I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.

10 posted on 05/19/2011 1:00:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NYer

Dhimmis in training.


11 posted on 05/19/2011 1:05:16 PM PDT by Will88
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To: NYer
University Presbyterian Church, AL
United Methodist Church, AR
Federated Community Church, AZ
First UMC Phoenix, AZ
All Saints Episcopal Church, CA
Light of Christ ECC, CO
Park Hill, CO
Union Congregational, CO
Temple Micah, CO
Riverfront Family Church, CT
National City Christian Church, DC
Washington National Cathedral, DC
Seekers Church, DC
North American Old Catholic Church, DC
New Ark, DE
Faith United Church of Christ, FL
Unitarian Universalist Church, FL
Virginia Highland Church, GA
St. Elizabeth's, HI
Church of the Epiphany, HI
Boise First United Methodist Church, ID
Hillview United Methodist, ID
First United of Oak Park, IL
St Thomas Mission, IL
The Chicago Temple First UMC, IL
Northminster Church, LA
Unitarian Universalist Society of Amherst, MA
Church of Our Savior, MA
St Paul’s Cathedral, MA
Old Cambridge Baptist Church, MA
Hadwen Park Congregational Church, MA
Trinity United Methodist, MO
First Congregational, MT
St. Peter's Catholic Church, NC
New Ark UCC, NJ
Unitarian Universalist Ocean County, NJ
Christ Episcopal Church, NJ
Zion Methodist, NV
Prepare New York, NY
Auburn Theological Seminary, NY
The Sacred Center of New York, NY
Christ Church, NY
Riverside Church, NY
Spirit of Peace, SD
Hope for Peace & Justice, TX
Cathedral of Hope, TX
Wasatch Presbyterian, UT
Grace Episcopal Church, UT
Drummerston Congregational Church, VT
United Church of Bellows Falls, VT
Memorial United Church of Christ, WI
First Congregational Church, WY

12 posted on 05/19/2011 1:07:24 PM PDT by jobim
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To: NYer

They need to have Anne Barnhardt officiating the readings and providing interpretation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riSJcZC89Hc


13 posted on 05/19/2011 1:12:56 PM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: NYer

They need to have Anne Barnhardt hosting the readings and providing interpretation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riSJcZC89Hc


14 posted on 05/19/2011 1:13:38 PM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: NYer
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15 posted on 05/19/2011 1:16:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: NYer

This is legit only as a “know thy enemy”. Much the same reason Thomas Jefferson read the Koran. A fact lost on Keith Ellison (D-Mecca).

Here in Minnestoopid a lot of moonbats have the “COEXIST” bumper sticker. The C being the crescent moon of Islam. Of course which of the religions described in the bumper sticker has a problem with coexisting?


16 posted on 05/19/2011 1:16:46 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: himno hero

She’s quite the gal.


17 posted on 05/19/2011 1:21:06 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: zot; GreyFriar
National City Christian Church

Dhimmi ping.

18 posted on 05/19/2011 1:21:52 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: GeronL
These buildings should be torn down, they are no longer functioning properly.

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I read once that if a Muslim prays in a Church, according to Islamic religious law the Church is considered to be a mosque to Muslims.

So I would say that these Churches are empty and teetering on bankruptcy, or they are so arrogant that they actually believe that they can convert Muslims to Christianity. Apostasy is punishable by death in Islam.

In the battle for souls, it is more likely that Islam will win especially when Christians open the gate for the enemy. These Churches will be mosques in a few years. Muslims are deadly serious about their mission. To many Christians, Church is just a social club.

19 posted on 05/19/2011 1:23:27 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: NYer
I wonder if they'll read this verse to the women of these churches from an older version of the Koran. Older versions are more graphic (i.e. they've changed) which should be a red flag:

"Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. ... As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them."

20 posted on 05/19/2011 1:24:03 PM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Switch off the EPA.)
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To: NYer

Why have a Koran reading when a stoning would attract more attention?


21 posted on 05/19/2011 1:25:33 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Fred Hayek

“The C being the crescent moon of Islam”

It would make more sense if it was shaped like PAC-MAN chasing the other letters.


22 posted on 05/19/2011 1:28:41 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: B4Ranch

for later. thanks


23 posted on 05/19/2011 1:31:15 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“There is no mythical “separation of church and state” under Islam. Islam IS the state.”

Exactly what a ‘friend’ of mine from the Middle East told me many, many years ago...little did I know then that we’d be facing this (Islam) in the USA!


24 posted on 05/19/2011 1:36:26 PM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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I suspect those “churches” gave up their Christian identity YEARS ago.


25 posted on 05/19/2011 1:53:43 PM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: NYer

Well, the more I read about what went on today (Chairman O dissing Israel) and what’s going on in our churches (reading the Quran to counter anti-Muslim bigotry), the less skeptical I am that the world won’t end on May 21.

P.S. For the religious zealots - I’m being “tongue-in-cheek”.


26 posted on 05/19/2011 1:57:54 PM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: NYer

Read the part about not taking Christians abd Jews as friends.


27 posted on 05/19/2011 2:00:01 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: NYer

Read the part about not taking Christians and Jews as friends.


28 posted on 05/19/2011 2:00:33 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Augustinian monk; RnMomof7; metmom; Alex Murphy

Looks like the usual suspects... The material added by me is in parenthesis lifted from their websites.

University Presbyterian Church, AL (PCUSA)
United Methodist Church, AR
Federated Community Church, AZ
First UMC Phoenix, AZ
All Saints Episcopal Church, CA
Light of Christ ECC, CO
Park Hill, CO
Union Congregational, CO
Temple Micah, CO
Riverfront Family Church, CT
National City Christian Church, DC
Washington National Cathedral, DC
Seekers Church, DC (Oddly enough I walked by this “church” the other day. A quick Google shows they “marry gays.”
North American Old Catholic Church, DC
New Ark, DE
Faith United Church of Christ, FL
Unitarian Universalist Church, FL
Virginia Highland Church, GA
St. Elizabeth’s, HI
Church of the Epiphany, HI
Boise First United Methodist Church, ID
Hillview United Methodist, ID
First United of Oak Park, IL (...an inclusive expression of Christ’s body as a “More Light”/”Open and Affirming” congregation.)
St Thomas Mission, IL
The Chicago Temple First UMC, IL
Northminster Church, LA
Unitarian Universalist Society of Amherst, MA
Church of Our Savior, MA
St Paul’s Cathedral, MA
Old Cambridge Baptist Church, MA (We are a progressive and inclusive Christian community)
Hadwen Park Congregational Church, MA
Trinity United Methodist, MO
First Congregational, MT
St. Peter’s Catholic Church, NC
New Ark UCC, NJ
Unitarian Universalist Ocean County, NJ
Christ Episcopal Church, NJ
Zion Methodist, NV
Prepare New York, NY
Auburn Theological Seminary, NY
The Sacred Center of New York, NY
Christ Church, NY
Riverside Church, NY
Spirit of Peace, SD
Hope for Peace & Justice, TX
Cathedral of Hope, TX
Wasatch Presbyterian, UT
Grace Episcopal Church, UT
Drummerston Congregational Church, VT
United Church of Bellows Falls, VT
Memorial United Church of Christ, WI
First Congregational Church, WY


29 posted on 05/19/2011 2:10:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: NYer

My 2 cents, it seems like the Christian Church (in general) is headed towards a syncretization of religions-morals, overseen by a multi-cultural UN like Super-State.


30 posted on 05/19/2011 2:12:30 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Prov 30)
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To: NYer
DON'T DO IT!!!
31 posted on 05/19/2011 2:12:45 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: jobim
Thanks for the list. For those who are discerning:
the Old American Catholic Church is NOT, I repeat, NOT a church in line with Rome.

Find this at Our Lady's Warriors>Dissent>Organizations

American Old Catholic Church

This group directly states their differences from being real Catholics. They:

  • do not accept the teaching of papal infallibility
  • claim independence of the pope
  • refuse to be bound by some of the canon laws and regulations
  • permit priests and bishops to marry
  • encourage women to be ministers of the church (priestesses)
  • allow divorced but not annulled people who remarry to participate in the sacraments
  • allow artificial contraception
  • invite all baptized Christians to the sacraments, regardless of the state of their souls (i.e. mortal sins, many of which are listed above) thus encouraging sacrilege

32 posted on 05/19/2011 2:14:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock
Looks like the usual suspects...

As usual :)

33 posted on 05/19/2011 2:16:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: 240B

Interesting facts. Do you have a source so that we can post more about this?


34 posted on 05/19/2011 2:17:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

I’ll ask our obama ass-kissing and liberal, homo parish here in Hollywood. I’m sure they will be interested...


35 posted on 05/19/2011 2:22:53 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: NYer
Mohammed's Koran -- Jesus' New Testament

WHAT THE QURAN TEACHES

36 posted on 05/19/2011 2:32:48 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: knighthawk

Ping


37 posted on 05/19/2011 2:34:19 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: jobim
Most of those names sound like the churches in Sodom and Gomorrah. These are not house's of the Lord if the blatantly break God's first and most important law, “Thou shall have no other Gods before me”. What do these heathens have to say about that? n/s
38 posted on 05/19/2011 2:51:11 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: Salvation

You said it. They’re sedevacantists. So far as I know, that is true of anyone using “Old” as an appellation before “Catholic.”


39 posted on 05/19/2011 2:57:55 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: NYer

Read the Koran to me in my Church and my checkbook will slam shut so tight they will wonder what happened.

The way to make your feelings known is through the Pocketbook. A few weeks of nothing in the collection box and they will have a change of tune.


40 posted on 05/19/2011 3:12:09 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer

This is the spiritual equivalent of what is going on in Israel, land for peace. Religious leaders are ceding spiritual land in the hopes that the world will like them


41 posted on 05/19/2011 3:24:46 PM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: Salvation

Apostasy in Islam is punishable by death.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/apostasy.htm


43 posted on 05/19/2011 3:26:43 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Interesting Times; GreyFriar
National City Christian Church. Dhimmi ping.

It might be interesting to know what parts of the Qur'an they will read.

45 posted on 05/19/2011 3:44:08 PM PDT by zot
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To: NYer
And in a show of international religious tolerance these 50 churches plan to build new churches in Saudi Arabia and a....No? Whata ya mean, No? Tolerance...hold hands...buy the world a Coke and sing in perfect harrrrmomyyyy.
46 posted on 05/19/2011 3:46:28 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: zot
It might be interesting to know what parts of the Qur'an they will read.

I doubt they'll include the bits about slaying the infidel, subjugating women, pedophilia, the duty to lie to unbelievers, and that whole "House of Islam / House of War" thingy....

47 posted on 05/19/2011 3:49:46 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: NYer

They are not churches, they are bands of lost souls trying to make themselves feel good. They are sheep without the Shepherd.
Someone recently said, they are trying to follow Jesus without following the Bible. That doesn’t work.


48 posted on 05/19/2011 4:10:06 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: NYer; hinckley buzzard; GeronL

The June 26 initiative, called “Faith Shared: Uniting in Prayer and Understanding,” is co-sponsored by the Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First. Leaders of the two Washington-based groups said the event hopes to demonstrate respect for Islam in the wake of Quran burnings in recent months.

Participating

University Presbyterian Church, AL
United Methodist Church, AR
Federated Community Church, AZ
First UMC Phoenix, AZ
All Saints Episcopal Church, CA
Light of Christ ECC, CO
Park Hill, CO
Union Congregational, CO
Temple Micah, CO
Riverfront Family Church, CT
National City Christian Church, DC
Washington National Cathedral, DC
Seekers Church, DC
North American Old Catholic Church, DC
New Ark, DE
Faith United Church of Christ, FL
Unitarian Universalist Church, FL
Virginia Highland Church, GA
St. Elizabeth’s, HI
Church of the Epiphany, HI
Boise First United Methodist Church, ID
Hillview United Methodist, ID
First United of Oak Park, IL
St Thomas Mission, IL
The Chicago Temple First UMC, IL
Northminster Church, LA
Unitarian Universalist Society of Amherst, MA
Church of Our Savior, MA
St Paul’s Cathedral, MA
Old Cambridge Baptist Church, MA
Hadwen Park Congregational Church, MA
Trinity United Methodist, MO
First Congregational, MT
St. Peter’s Catholic Church, NC
New Ark UCC, NJ
Unitarian Universalist Ocean County, NJ
Christ Episcopal Church, NJ
Zion Methodist, NV
Prepare New York, NY
Auburn Theological Seminary, NY
The Sacred Center of New York, NY
Christ Church, NY
Riverside Church, NY
Spirit of Peace, SD
Hope for Peace & Justice, TX
Cathedral of Hope, TX
Wasatch Presbyterian, UT
Grace Episcopal Church, UT
Drummerston Congregational Church, VT
United Church of Bellows Falls, VT
Memorial United Church of Christ, WI
First Congregational Church, WY

© Copyright 2011 All Rights Reserved by
Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First.

http://www.faithshared.org/


49 posted on 05/19/2011 4:27:26 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: NYer

It should be a quick service.

Muslims deny Christ’s devinity. And call the Resurection Propaganda.

What do these “Churches” expect to reconcile?

Definition of BLASPHEMY
1a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God
b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity
..........................................................
2: irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable
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See blasphemy defined for English-language learners »
See blasphemy defined for kids »


50 posted on 05/19/2011 4:28:16 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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