Posted on 05/27/2008 10:29:23 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
Not even when the health and well-being of its own children is concerned.
What authority does he have to set doctrine for the Catholic Church?
Can we doubt the fear a child might experience being confronted with the sinful desires of a man who is considered to be "another Christ" by himself, by his church and by his own family?
How many times did that actually happen?
I wonder how much that costs.
Are you suggesting that the Catholic Church has not? The pope made it a specific directive in his US trip to address this and make an apology, and will do so again in Australia at World Youth Day. I'm sure other bishops have as well.
This is amazing! Who knew the protestants had a serious problem, while they were throwing up a smokescreen bashing Catholic priests!
SOUTH KITSAP, WA. A youth pastor at a South Kitsap church has been charged with third-degree child molestation, alleging he had sexual relations with a 15-year-old member of his youth group. Cecil Gregory Foust, 40, a youth pastor at South Park Assembly of God, was arrested Feb. 1. He pleaded innocent at his arraignment Friday. The alleged relationship began during a youth group trip in December, Kitsap County Sheriff’s Office Lt. Jim Harris said. They allegedly had sexual contact on several occasions. Those contacts occurred in the church van when he drove her home, Harris said. (2/5/2000, The Sun, Bremerton, WA.)
Youth pastor charged with molestation
http://www.thesunlink.com/news/2000/february/0205a1f.html
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NORTHFIELD, MN. - Pastor and youth minister Grant Junior Grayson, 32, was sentenced to 9 months in jail after pleading guilty to sexually assaulting a 12-year-old boy whom he took to his house and on church trips. He will be on probation for up to 25 years, must pay over $6,000 in fines and restitution, register as a sex offender, refrain from drugs and alcohol and complete treatment. AP, 2/12/00, 12/7/99
Arrest
Guilty Plea
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RALIEGH - Non-denominational minister Howard Hunichen, 36, pleaded for nearly an hour in his own defense, imploring a judge not to believe he is a “cruel, evil beast” who beat infants senseless and raped people. But Superior Court Judge Henry Hight Jr. imposed the maximum sentence of 6 years in prison as soon as Hunichen finished speaking and said it was not enough.
Hunichen was found guilty of shaking, stomping and hitting 7-month-old Zachary Fortner to force him to crawl and walk and be quiet. The boy was left with severely limited mental and physical abilities, and is not expected to recover.
His parents, Kevin and Lisa Fortner, face felony child abuse charges and their 2 daughters have also been removed from their custody. During the trial they testified that Hunichen assaulted them and forced Lisa to have sex with him. The district attorney, however, is not considering bringing rape charges against Hunichen. News & Observer, 1/21/00
Howard Hunichen
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Not in the way it is twisted here by the Catholic-haters.
Read the article. Some congregations were told it would be "voluntary," but money was given over to pay for the priest sex abuse settlements even after members had been assured it would not be.
Wonder how those Catholics feel who were told to their face that their offerings would not go to pay to settle some priest's sex scandal, and yet their money still ended up there.
It isn’t the sexual abuse that so many find revolting - because that does go on everywhere, sad to say. And it will continue until Christ returns. But the cover up and the cover up of the cover up which went on in many places in many times that is revolting. Biblically, they should have been out of the church until a true repentance was seen. Intead, they were just transferred to a new flock of innocent and trusting sheep. That is the issue. The revolting sin was on a HUGE scale in the RCC. You don’t see that widespread coverup and shuffling anywhere else. Much less where people look to the leaders to be Godly.
LOL. Thanks Judy. You're proving my point with every post you make.
Interesting to note that the Cailfornia legislature retroactively changed the statute of limitations in 2003 (specifically aimed at the Catholic Church) to extend the time limit to file a lawsuit for alleged sexual abuse occurring well over 40 years ago-—which, of course, lead to multi-million dollar settlements..
Why was the Church singled out?
Meanwhile the California Supreme Court ruled last August (Shirk v Visla Unified School District (2007)) [no joke] that the statute of limitations for sexual abuse involving employees in state schools is NOT extended-—Victims must file their claims within 6 months of the wrongful event or be forever barred from filing an action.
This has the disparate treatment of allowing, in many cases, stale claims with old evidence and witnesses with failed memories as evidence of abuse against the Church, while state institutions are virtually immune from liabilty for even recent abuses.
Believe me: the State of California has the Church in its cross-hairs.....watch for gay marriage mandamus injunctions, discrimination lawsuits by the Attorney General Jerry Brown—and lawsuits by unscrupulous lawyers for “sexual preference” discrimination-—a veritable goldmine.
And there are many on this board that will clap and cheer every step of the way....
Fortuntely for us we have Christ’s promise that He will not abondan us, and that the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church.
Pax Christi
RD
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Anyone who was paying attention? :)
Not even when the health and well-being of its own children is concerned.
I don't believe I EVER said that the Catholic Church is not composed of sinful human beings. It is annoying, though, when an evangelical sola scriptural holier than thou protestant comes on FR to gloat over the failings of the Church, most especially when protestants turn a blind eye toward their own egregious child predators.
BTW, these are recent cases. You'd think the protestants would LEARN.
The burning drive to bludgeon Catholicism and Catholics with this matter is Satanic.
Read the posts, feel the hatred. We shall know them from their fruits.
There is no meaning to "alter Christus."
There is only Christ, one member of the Holy Trinity.
Either the parishes were forced to pay or they volunteered it. Which is it?
He was listed in the Evangelical category. Shall I go to some of the more WELL-KNOWN denominations? Seems they have quite a few as well. Really, it’s no problem. One faith healer in all those hundreds, feh!
If it means nothing at all, why is it such a fetish for you?
God forgive those who blame the lawyers, carelessly and cruelly ignoring the victims.
No wonder it took decades to get some justice for these poor souls. I wonder how many of the 508 victims in ONE settlement against the Los Angeles diocese remain Roman Catholic to this day?
No one here has done that.
Are you sure? For the public schools, it is not only still covered up, but it is anathema to even speak of it. In the spiritual realm, are you sure that these abusers were never shuffled in Protestant circles? Even in cases where Protestant pastors were fired from or left one church, are you sure they did not simply go to another? Can any of us know, especially when some Protestant churches are not as centrally organized (which would affect the amount of records kept)?
You make a statement that cannot be proven when speaking of churches, and can be disproven when speaking generally.
Even when the Catholic Church is finally trying to make things right, it seems she is still abused, mocked, and scorned.
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