Posted on 05/27/2008 10:29:23 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
Blessed with a nest egg of nearly $1.5 million, a Woodland Hills parish donated almost all of it, leaving just $1,000 in its savings account. An Encino church offered a $100,000 interest-free loan. And a Boyle Heights parish decided it could spare $500 after ruling out the idea of raising money with tamale sales.
With gifts large and small, parishes across the sprawling Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles are answering an appeal from Cardinal Roger M. Mahony to help the archdiocese dig out of the financial hole resulting from its multimillion-dollar legal settlements with victims of clergy sexual abuse...
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Let's see, "We victimized you, now you pay the bill". I guess the vast wealth of the Catholic church is off limits
It sure looks that way.
Wonder what they're saving it for?
Devout chuch-going Catholics shouldn’t have to bail out expenses for pedophile predsators who should have been exposed to the polie by the Church hierarchy instead of palmed off on other parishes.
It’s interesting how those that did not report the crimes to the police have never paid a price for their complicity. They’ve made lawyers look like heroes because they handled it so badly.
Granted I just read the excerpt (which qualifies me to hold forth on the entire article) but I didn’t read anywhere where it was a mandatory confiscation. The cardinal asked, the parishes delivered. Where’s the beef?
The Vatican could erase this debt with a quick swipe of the pen. Why doesn't it?
Probably the answer is two-fold. If congregants and parishes are going to be led around by the nose in other matters, why not lead them to pay this tab as well?
Also, there may be something about everyone needing to feel and shoulder this "collective" guilt on some kind of creepy, "we're all guilty" level.
That way, the priests aren't really guilty if the members of the church are taking on the responsibility of paying for their despicable actions. It must take a lot for a Catholic to believe that "another Christ" is guilty of anything.
All men are sinners, but NOT all men commit these kinds of terrible crimes.
Watch the recent, award-winning documentary now on DVD, "Deliver Us From Evil." Everything becomes a lot clearer, sadly, after watching it.
Thanks for the ping!
My second reaction was: well, since first the church turned away from biblical command to put the disgusting pedophiles out of fellowship until such time, prayerfully they repented (they didn't). Secondly, also very much against biblical mandate, they just shuffled them elsewhere to protect the vile pedophiles and kept doing that until the word got out publicly. Thirdly, they did not use biblical or Christ centered ways to relief to the victims, but used secular and man's ways (lawsuits and mammon pay-offs, psycho-babble) rather than biblical counseling, etc. Then why are we surprised when they, again, appeal to man, even their own sheep to pay for the sins of their false shepherds in order to keep their earthly riches?
Back to the first reaction.
Ugh, how disgusting and rotten and very unGodly.
Also, the fact that you continue to forward that piece of Hollywood propaganda says that you're willing to partner with left-wingers just as long as they're anti-Catholic.
Why do you make that accusation? What is the foundation you are using? It would seem that you are saying that anyone who realizes that what the RCC did was bibically wrong is a left-winger. Is that what you are saying?
No, specifically, I mean the documentary was produced by Hollywood interests, which are typically left-wing
oops.. I realized my mistake a few minutes after I posted.
But since both of you mentioned it, I have decided to order the DVD myself Then, I can see for myself if it is really left-winged as you accuse or if it you just think it is because it exposes how ungodly and downright evil this whole affair was dealt with - and seems to be continuing. Then I don’t have to take your word, or Doc’s! ;)
((citation needed))
Seriously, what makes you think the Vatican has any more liquid cash to pay for these sorts of cases than any other government or organization? This is the reason the Church is arranged into dioceses: they are manageable but semi-independent subsections. It was one of the ideas we kept from the Romans.
The bulk of the "Wealth of the Vatican" isn't in liquid cash. It's in architecture, art, manuscripts, etc. that, if they could be priced at all, are properly shared with the entire world. There is no guarantee that private owners (if any could actually afford said art/architecture) would do this as well as the Church does.
In addition, the same logic you use here would dictate that the Federal Government should pay for the sexual abuse against children that has taken place in the public schools. They have the money lying around, right?
Any parish that contributes it’s parishoners’ monies to settling child abuse lawsuits, should fold it’s ledgers, shut it’s doors and blow itself to oblivion!
This is key. Just because a documentary is "award-winning" doesn't mean that it isn't somewhere between slanted and downright wrong.
But since both of you mentioned it, I have decided to order the DVD myself Then, I can see for myself if it is really left-winged as you accuse or if it you just think it is because it exposes how ungodly and downright evil this whole affair was dealt with
lupie, I hope you watch it with the same critical eye that you would with "Bowling for Columbine," "Fahrenheit 9/11," "An Inconvenient Truth," or any of those other wonderful "award-winning documentaries." To do otherwise is intellectually dishonest. Liberals are liberals, period. If you are convinced after looking critically, I can't complain.
and seems to be continuing.
This is completely untrue, at least in the US. Dioceses have implemented policies to deal with accusations, candidates are heavily screened (I know because I went through the process recently), and priests have been removed.
//Before you ask, I haven't seen any of the movies mentioned. I won't buy/rent them because I have no desire to pay them and reward their bad behaviour. Maybe I'll rent some from the library someday.
Yes, I WILL look at it critically. I look at most things that way. And when I was talking about the evil continuing, I was not speaking of the abuse continuing. I wouldn’t know about that. I mean the evil way in which the entire thing has been, and is being handled. That is, if it is true that the sheep are being asked to pay for the payoff to other sheep.
It sure looks that way. Wonder what they're saving it for?
To pay #666, of course.
Antichrists aren't cheap, ya know!
Don't tell this to too many people, though. It's meant to be classified.
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