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BOILING SEAS LINKED TO MASS EXTINCTION (AND BIBLICAL FLOOD)
Nature Science Update ^ | 22 August 2003 | TOM CLARKE

Posted on 08/25/2003 11:12:31 AM PDT by Mike Darancette

A massive methane explosion frothing out of the world's oceans 250 million years ago caused the Earth's worst mass extinction, claims a US geologist.

Similar, smaller-scale events could have happened since, which might explain the Biblical flood, for example, suggests Gregory Ryskin of Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois1. And they could happen again: "It's a very conjectural idea but it's too important to ignore," says Ryskin.

Up to 95% of Earth's marine species disapeared at the end of the Permian period. Some 70% of land species, including plants, insects and vertebrates, also perished. "It's arguably the single most important event in biology but there's no consensus as to what happened," says palaeontologist Andrew Knoll of Harvard University in Cambridge, Massacheusetts.

Ryskin contends that methane from bacterial decay or from frozen methane hydrates in deep oceans began to be released. Under the enormous pressure from water above, the gas dissolved in the water at the bottom of the ocean and was trapped there as its concentration grew.

Just one disturbance - a small meteorite impact or even a fast moving mammal - could then have brought the gas-saturated water closer to the surface. Here it would have bubbled out of solution under the reduced pressure. Thereafter the process would have been unstoppable: a huge overturning of the water layers would have released a vast belch of methane.

The oceans could easily have contained enough methane to explode with a force about 10,000 times greater than the world's entire nuclear-weapons stockpile, Ryskin argues. "There would be mortality on a massive scale," he says.

"It's a wacky idea," says geologist Paul Wignall of the University of Leeds, UK, "but not so wild that it shouldn't be taken seriously." There is evidence that the oceans stagnated at the end of the Permian period. And the chemical signature in fossils of the time hints there was a massive change in the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide would have been produced as methane broke down or exploded in the atmosphere.

After all, belches of trapped methane from lakes and oceans are "a rare but well-known maritime hazard", Wignall adds.

Flood warning

The same phenomenon could explain more recent events, such as the Biblical flood, Ryskin also argues. An eruption from Europe's stagnant Black Sea would fit the bill. There is even some geological evidence that such an event took place 7,000-8,000 years ago.

Other sluggish seas might still be accumulating methane at their depths and could represent a future hazard, Ryskin adds. "Even if there's only a small probability that I am right, we should start looking for areas of the ocean where this might be happening," he argues.

References 1. Ryskin, G. Methane driven oceanic eruptions and mass extinctions. Geology, 31, 737 - 740, (2003).

(c) Nature News Service / Macmillan Magazines Ltd 2003


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blacksea; blackseaflood; catastrophism; climate; extinction; flood; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; grandcanyon; greatflood; gregoryryskin; methane; noah; noahsflood; paulwignall; tomclarke; turass
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Have at it.
1 posted on 08/25/2003 11:12:31 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
The Earth Farts.
2 posted on 08/25/2003 11:16:31 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Mike Darancette
At 9:30 p.m. on August 12, 1986, a cloudy mixture of carbon dioxide (CO2) and water droplets rose violently from Lake Nyos, Cameroon. As the lethal mist swept down adjacent valleys, it killed over 1700 people, thousands of cattle, and many more birds and animals. Local villagers attributed the catastrophe to the wrath of a spirit woman of local folklore who inhabits the lakes and rivers. Scientists, on the other hand, were initially puzzled by the root cause, and by the abrupt onset, of this mysterious and tragic event.

3 posted on 08/25/2003 11:18:32 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Mike Darancette
A tad imaginative.
4 posted on 08/25/2003 11:18:54 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Mike Darancette
I dont see why God wouldnt use natural phenomena to do his work.

Just like brimstone could be an asteroid.
5 posted on 08/25/2003 11:19:00 AM PDT by smith288 (For every column Ann Coulter writes, liberals worldwide experience shrinkage)
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To: Mike Darancette
Armageddon Level Fart.
6 posted on 08/25/2003 11:19:05 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Mike Darancette
There is evidence that the oceans stagnated at the end of the Permian period. And the chemical signature in fossils of the time hints there was a massive change in the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide would have been produced as methane broke down or exploded in the atmosphere.

Oh, bullbiscuits. Everyone knows that all the Dimetrodons got big honkin' SUVs and that led to the increase in CO2 and eventually the Permian extinction.

Seriously, there has been concern for some time about the possibility of a sudden, rapid release of methane from hydrates. However, recall that in the Bible it rained for 40 days and 40 nights to trigger the flood, there is no mention of the largest cosmic flatulence of all time.

7 posted on 08/25/2003 11:19:14 AM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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Wheres ELF? They can stop this cant they?
8 posted on 08/25/2003 11:21:49 AM PDT by smith288 (For every column Ann Coulter writes, liberals worldwide experience shrinkage)
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To: Mike Darancette
A new mining opportunity?
9 posted on 08/25/2003 11:22:41 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente
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To: smith288
Wheres ELF? They can stop this cant they?

They'd probably try to light a joint while the methane was erupting...

10 posted on 08/25/2003 11:23:08 AM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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recall that in the Bible it rained for 40 days and 40 nights to trigger the flood, there is no mention of the largest cosmic flatulence of all time.

That's because Teddy "The Swimmer" Kennedy hadn't been born yet.

11 posted on 08/25/2003 11:24:34 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Mike Darancette; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; Chancellor Palpatine

A very informative and thought-provoking book on the Permian Extinction and possible causes.

12 posted on 08/25/2003 11:27:32 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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He who smelt it, dealt it.
13 posted on 08/25/2003 11:27:57 AM PDT by B Knotts
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It sounds consistant with the bible to me.

"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."

14 posted on 08/25/2003 11:28:07 AM PDT by I still care
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To: Mike Darancette

A Clive Cussler novel wherein the villain has a plan to use methane hydrates off the coast of the North America to destroy the United States.

15 posted on 08/25/2003 11:30:56 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Mike Darancette
Just one disturbance - a small meteorite impact or even a fast moving mammal - could then have brought the gas-saturated water closer to the surface.

So, the mass extinction could have been caused by a mammal. Fish are NOT implicated, everyone! No need to panic! No fish, no reptiles are responsible for this catastophe! It's either an asteroid, or a mammal, and we're betting it's a mammal -- they always mess up the environment.

16 posted on 08/25/2003 11:34:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Mike Darancette
Up to 95% of Earth's marine species disapeared at the end of the Permian period.

And it is all Bush Fault!

17 posted on 08/25/2003 11:34:16 AM PDT by 50sDad ("There are FOUR LIGHTS! FOUR LIGHTS!")
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To: Mike Darancette
If there was such a flood, where did all the water come from and where did it go?

Figure it out: Volume = Pi Times Radius Of The Earth To The Third Power. The radius of the earth at the equator is 3,963 miles. The volume of the earth [ignoring flatening] is 195.5 billion cm [cubic miles]. The current total amount of water on the planet is 326 million cm.

To raise the radius of the earth, with water by 100 feet, would require 2.8 million cm of water, which is more than all the non-ocean and icecap water combined. To raise the radius of the earth by 400 feet would take more than all the water on earth except for the oceans.

To raise the radius of the earth by say 12,500 feet, enough to cover mountains, would require more water than currently exists on the entire planet.

Where did it come from and where did it go?


18 posted on 08/25/2003 11:35:06 AM PDT by ido_now
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To: Mike Darancette
It sounds like God didn't like what He had created many, many times.

First the fishes get wiped out, then the dinosaurs, then He gets Noah to help pick and choose which species to populate the new earth after the flood.
19 posted on 08/25/2003 11:37:50 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: BlueLancer
Thanks for the suggestion! I will check it out.

I read a book a few years back on the same subject, but this was not it. I cannot recall the title.

Regards,
CD

20 posted on 08/25/2003 11:46:52 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Bughters didnurce!)
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