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"Muslim" Driver's License Woman Is Convicted Child Abuser: See Her UNVEILED (Ulterior Motive?)
The Smoking Gun ^ | May 29, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 11:32:30 AM PDT by Timesink

MAY 28--Turns out the Florida woman who is suing for the right to wear a Muslim headdress in a driver's license photograph has previously been subjected to an, um, unveiled government portrait. Following her 1997 conversion to Islam, Sultaana Freeman (formerly Sandra Keller) was arrested in Decatur, Illinois for battering a foster child. Freeman, 35, pleaded guilty in 1999 to felony aggravated battery and was sentenced to 18 months probation. As a result of the conviction, state officials removed two foster children from Freeman's care. The mug shot of the felonious Freeman (below left) was taken after her arrest in the Illinois case. Freeman returned to the dock this week--that's her testifying in the below right photo--to challenge Florida rules requiring prospective drivers to submit to unveiled photos for their licenses. Last year, Freeman sued the state after her license was revoked when she failed to allow officials to photograph her sans headdress. State officials contend that, in light of the September 11 attacks, it is crucial that all motorists now be photographed in an unadorned state. (1 page)

For more on Freeman's case, check out Court TV's coverage.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: Florida; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: battery; burka; childabuse; convictedfelon; felon; fosterchildren; id; islam; nutball; sandrakeller; sultaanafreeman
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To: Rummyfan
Fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down?

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I hear she's got ten-foot pole marks all over her chest.
141 posted on 06/02/2003 1:42:35 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: nutmeg
Well, now we know that she has something to hide her face in shame about.
142 posted on 06/02/2003 1:43:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Living Free in NH
LOL It only took til post #6 for that one!!
143 posted on 06/02/2003 1:45:21 PM PDT by BSunday (My other post is a pulitzer prize)
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To: george wythe
Another special right for Christian fundamentalist is the right to ride a buggie 5 mph on a highway with a 55 mph without a driver's license..

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Nobody calls the Amish "Christian fundamentalists".
144 posted on 06/02/2003 1:51:35 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Tamar1973
"most muslim countries allow women to drive, except countries like Saudi Arabia, which force women to wear the kind of veil that Ms. Freeman wants to freedom to wear here."

Ironic isn't it?

145 posted on 06/02/2003 1:56:09 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Timesink
"Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191)

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)

"Not to make friendship with Jews and Christians" (Koran 5:51)

"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)

"If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them [infidels]" (Koran 8:65).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (Koran 9:3)

"Fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5)

Our God tells us to "fight the unbelievers" and "He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them" (Koran 9:14).

"Until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Koran 9:29)

"Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (9:39).

"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)

"Murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123)

"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:40)

"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)

"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)

"strike off the heads of the disbelievers" (Koran 47:4)

"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)

"You (i.e. Muslims) will fight wi the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' " (Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177)

The Prophet killed the men of the Jewish tribe Bani Quraiza (some 600 to 800 of them) and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims All the other Jews of Medina were exiled. (Bukhari 5:59:362)

The Prophet had the date-palms of the Jewish tribe of Bani-Al- Nadir burnt and cut down. "It was with Allah's permission" (Koran 59:5)

The Prophet said to Sa'd, :The Bani Quraiza have agreed to accept your verdict" Sa'd said, "Kill all their men and take their women and children as slaves" The Prophet replied, "You have judged according to God's Judgment" (Bukhari 5:59:447)

"The Christians say: The Christ is the son of Allah; "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:29)

These are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them." (Sura 9:30)

"Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is one of three.' There is but one God. If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished." (Surah 5:73)

islam, the religion of peace…


Owl_Eagle


”Guns Before Butter.”



146 posted on 06/02/2003 1:59:39 PM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: RussRoberts
"In NONE of these countries are ID pictures done with the face covered. This, in the heartland of Islam."

ROTFL! Obviously this dingbat is unaware that even in the most rigid of Islamic countries, some things just go beyond silly. Good find.

147 posted on 06/02/2003 2:00:50 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Timesink
Leave the burka on. Take a picture of her ass and make her bend over whenever stopped!
148 posted on 06/02/2003 2:07:05 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: redheadtoo
"I agree. I see Muslim women walking around my area, southern California, and I wonder why they don't drop from heat stroke.

I used to see a group of local high school girls jog past my office window each day. One of them was a Muslim, wearing a long robe and head scarf. Just watching her made me want to faint from the heat."

Actually, I find that I am actually cooler when I cover myself when it is hot than when I wear things like shorts, sleeveless shirts, etc.

Even before Islam came along, people in the deserts would wear flowing robes and cover their heads w/ turbans or veils to keep the sun off them. When I see someone outside in the heat wearing shorts and a t-shirt, I instantly think of a baked potato. (and not to bright to be inviting skin cancer).

As a fellow redhead, you understand the dangers of the sun.
149 posted on 06/02/2003 2:18:18 PM PDT by Tamar1973 ("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Chazal,Jewish sage)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
"I do not understand a convert to Islam within America who insists that the religion mandates that she cover her face," said Hoffman, who has visited most Arab countries and lived in Egypt for four years. "Most Muslims would consider that extreme."

I have found that, in general, converts are more zealous than those who were raised from childhood in a particular faith. When you have to make a sacrifice for something, you cherish it more. This is true whether the person is a convert to Islam, Christianity or Judaism.

150 posted on 06/02/2003 2:23:37 PM PDT by Tamar1973 ("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Chazal,Jewish sage)
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To: Timesink
Excuse me, but I observe deep deep cleavage in the aforementioned photograph. Could you perhaps provide a more detailed photo which more accurately categorizes her breast tissue deposits?????? I'll make my decision on the veil after seeing the photo. Thank you, The Judge!
151 posted on 06/02/2003 2:24:43 PM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: RussRoberts
Have to admit.....I'm surprised CNN had this.

And I'm very surprised..( NOT ) that the media lap dog clymers covering this story haven't pointed this out to the sheeple.

Nice get...Russ.

FRegards,

152 posted on 06/02/2003 2:27:35 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Bill Clinton's such a liar he'd beat you senseless and tell God you fell off a horse.)
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To: george wythe
You wrote:

"Fundamentalist Christians can get their driver's licenses without pictures.

A federal Court of Appeals forced the state of Nebraska to issue a driver's license without a picture to a fundamentalist Christian, and the US Supreme court affirmed the case.

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Okay...I'll bite. Could you go in to some detail here?

How exactly was this "Fundamentalist Christian" described? And why did they object to a photo? What was their scriptural/biblical reasoning?

Thanks........

153 posted on 06/02/2003 2:37:59 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Bill Clinton's such a liar he'd beat you senseless and tell God you fell off a horse.)
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To: george wythe
Oops....I jumped without looking. I see your reply to someone else now. thanks-
154 posted on 06/02/2003 2:42:15 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Bill Clinton's such a liar he'd beat you senseless and tell God you fell off a horse.)
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To: Legion
I was thinking more along the lines of a garbage fire that was put out with a golf shoe...

I understand she was goalie for the darts team.

155 posted on 06/02/2003 2:49:19 PM PDT by laredo44
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Many people would consider this is where the seperation of state and religon come in. I have read many arguments where people suggest that her religious rights are being violated. This is one of the opions I have recieved:
FL Statute 761.03 states that "the government shall not burden a person's exercise of religion, even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, unless the government can show a compelling governmental interest and it is done in the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling government interest." This means that the FL government cannot interfere with the way she chooses to practice her religion, and that is what they are trying to do. The idea that having a female photographer will make it all better is ridiculous because that ID will be seen by many people...at the bank, when she applies for a job, when she would get pulled over, etc. so ALL those people would see it. Plus, what is then to stop an officer from requiring her to remove the veil for him when/if she ever gets pulled over, because "you did it for your license!"

Separation of church and state means just that...they are SEPARATE. The state/government cannot force you to be one religion or another, just like they cannot tell you NOT to be that religion. She has just as much right to dress that way as the girls on the beach have the right to wear hardly any clothes at all.

What do you think of this side of the coin?? Please be mature about your response, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I really dont care if shes ugly or not.
156 posted on 06/04/2003 7:25:26 PM PDT by hawaiiandreamin
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To: riri
It's gotta get hot in Florida wearing that get up.

I don't believe for one second that she ever intends on wearing it while driving. Only for the license photo.

157 posted on 06/04/2003 7:28:34 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I don't believe for one second that she ever intends on wearing it while driving

Probably right. They showed her sitting at a park bench in the get up. What a moron.

158 posted on 06/04/2003 7:49:59 PM PDT by riri
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