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"Muslim" Driver's License Woman Is Convicted Child Abuser: See Her UNVEILED (Ulterior Motive?)
The Smoking Gun ^ | May 29, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 11:32:30 AM PDT by Timesink

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1 posted on 05/29/2003 11:32:30 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Good find : )
2 posted on 05/29/2003 11:34:23 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: Timesink
Correct me if I am wrong, but under Islamic Law, women are NOT permitted to drive a car. If she wants a driver's license, she is breaking Islamic Law. Some Muslim.

My conclusion: If she wants her driver's license, OFF WITH HER VEIL !!!

3 posted on 05/29/2003 11:34:36 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Master (Sort of) of the Kitty Threads)
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To: PetroniDE
Correct me if I am wrong, but under Islamic Law, women are NOT permitted to drive a car.

I think you have swerved into the Magic Catch 22.

4 posted on 05/29/2003 11:35:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Timesink
She is a disturbed individual. I'm sorry that our PC society is permitting her to have her 15 minutes of fame at taxpayer expense.
5 posted on 05/29/2003 11:35:54 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Timesink
Now I see why she wears the veil.
6 posted on 05/29/2003 11:36:29 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: PetroniDE
I'm almost sure cars are not in Islamic law. Saudi Arabia prohibits it. They certainly drive them over here. I see them all the time.
7 posted on 05/29/2003 11:36:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Timesink
How can she drive a car when her peripheral vision is obstructed by that bag on her head. She is a hazard on the road.
8 posted on 05/29/2003 11:37:04 AM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: Timesink
Maybe the veil isn't such a bad thing...
9 posted on 05/29/2003 11:37:12 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I think you have swerved into the Magic Catch 22.

What does that mean is simple to understand English? Am I correct or in-correct.

10 posted on 05/29/2003 11:37:30 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Master (Sort of) of the Kitty Threads)
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To: Timesink
Following her 1997 conversion to Islam, Sultaana Freeman (formerly Sandra Keller) was arrested in Decatur, Illinois for battering a foster child.

"Religion of peace." And, apparently, child abuse.

11 posted on 05/29/2003 11:37:49 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("This is how six-year-olds argue: they call everything 'stupid'." --Coulter, on liberals)
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To: PetroniDE
The article in my local (Florida) newspaper remarked on her very green eyes, which are evident in the license photo. But when I look at the mug shot, her eyes look brown.

Does Allah smile on tinted contacts?
12 posted on 05/29/2003 11:39:34 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: Timesink
She's got a face like A BLIND COBBLER'S THUMB
13 posted on 05/29/2003 11:40:16 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: PetroniDE
What does that mean is simple to understand English? Am I correct or in-correct.

You nailed it. Or is that not simple to understand English?

14 posted on 05/29/2003 11:41:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: redlipstick
The article in my local (Florida) newspaper remarked on her very green eyes, which are evident in the license photo. But when I look at the mug shot, her eyes look brown.

Mug shots aren't usually done with much care. If you can make out the face, good enough for government work.

15 posted on 05/29/2003 11:41:32 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Living Free in NH
My first thought.;-)
16 posted on 05/29/2003 11:42:11 AM PDT by katze
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To: Bahbah
Yes, I went home at lunch and this lunatic's hearing was being shown on CourTV. How utterly ridiculous.
17 posted on 05/29/2003 11:42:45 AM PDT by Space Wrangler (Now I know what it's like washing windows when you know that there are pigeons on the roof...)
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To: Timesink
It's gotta get hot in Florida wearing that get up.

Those cover-ups look so absolutely ridiculous, words can not do justice.

18 posted on 05/29/2003 11:45:04 AM PDT by riri
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To: Puppage
I was thinking more along the lines of a garbage fire that was put out with a golf shoe...
19 posted on 05/29/2003 11:45:19 AM PDT by Legion
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To: AppyPappy
Cars may not be in Islamic law, but they may be in shar'ia law. IIRC, and I may be wrong here, shar'ia law is developed throughout time in response to the needs of society. So any given country's shar'ia law may be different from Koranic law, and from the shar'ia law of another Muslim country. If anyone knows differently, please correct me.
20 posted on 05/29/2003 11:47:15 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Timesink
well, that's a face made for radio if I've ever seen one.

with that face, she belongs in Guantanamo Bay.
21 posted on 05/29/2003 11:47:35 AM PDT by Blzbba
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To: Timesink
So this makes her a veiled threat.
22 posted on 05/29/2003 11:48:16 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Timesink
Good find!
23 posted on 05/29/2003 11:49:08 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: TomGuy
Its curtains for her!
24 posted on 05/29/2003 11:50:39 AM PDT by NorseWood
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To: PetroniDE
Correct me if I am wrong, but under Islamic Law, women are NOT permitted to drive a car. If she wants a driver's license, she is breaking Islamic Law. Some Muslim. My conclusion: If she wants her driver's license, OFF WITH HER VEIL !!!

The one angle I haven't heard the State of Florida bring up is that driving w/ that kind of veil cuts off her peripheral vision, making her a clear and present danger to her fellow floridans behind the wheel. They should make it illegal to drive like that. Afterall, if it's illegal to drive w/ a cell phone or a burger in your hand, it should be illegal to drive like that. I concur w/ you. If she wants to drive, she should take off that veil. Driving in a priviledge, not a right.

25 posted on 05/29/2003 11:50:57 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Jewish sage)
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To: Timesink
Another jailhouse conversion?
26 posted on 05/29/2003 11:56:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: twigs
"Cars may not be in Islamic law, but they may be in shar'ia law. "

Actually, most muslim countries allow women to drive, except countries like Saudi Arabia, which force women to wear the kind of veil that Ms. Freeman wants to freedom to wear here.

Acutally part of Saudi Arabia's circular logic on this point is as follows.

1. Women must wear veils b/c of Sharia
2. Veils make it more dangerous for women to drive a car because they can reduce peripheral vision.
3. However, we will not allow women to leave their homes w/out the veil.
4. Therefor women can't drive.
27 posted on 05/29/2003 11:56:35 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Jewish sage)
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To: twigs
So any given country's shar'ia law may be different from Koranic law, and from the shar'ia law of another Muslim country.

Kinda make it up as you go, hmmm, fits some churches too.

28 posted on 05/29/2003 11:58:28 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Tamar1973
Another angle to use is that a lot of places use your driver's license as an id. Want to cash a check? Let me see your license. Ditto for using a credit card (sometimes) or for getting into a bar.
How are these places supposed to guess that the person behind the ski mask (which is really looks like, a "veil" to me means slightly see through) is who they say they are?
What's a bank to do if she shows up with the mask on, and presents her masked id? Just hope to Allah that she is who she says she is?
29 posted on 05/29/2003 11:59:27 AM PDT by lelio
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To: Timesink
Thanks for telling her to put it back on. Much prefer the 2nd photo.
30 posted on 05/29/2003 12:01:32 PM PDT by Helms (Dems Find Smoking Gun: 45-55 Loss in Senate, Bush Wins 2nd Term)
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To: Tamar1973
I don't care if she wants to walk around with a grocery bag over her head, complete with little drawn on eyes, nose and mouth. She, however has NO RIGHT to be allowed the priviledge of operating a motor vehicle in this country as long as she refuses to be photographed without the mask on. The whole purpose of a picture ID is to verify that the person on the ID is in fact the person holding it. What kinda dip$hit moron would ask that the picture be taken while their face is covered. Why not such type in the space "PHOTO NOT AVAILABLE."

How stupid we've become that this vermin even gets the time of day with just a crazy demand. THEY SHOULD SIMPLY SEND HER HOME WITH NO LICENSE.

Also...Where I grew up, people who wore masks were BAD GUYS!!

31 posted on 05/29/2003 12:03:22 PM PDT by Extremist
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To: Living Free in NH
Yep she one ugly hoe!
32 posted on 05/29/2003 12:04:47 PM PDT by DEPUTYMAYTAG (whatwouldTonysopranodo)
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To: Extremist
I wouldn't be suprised if someone started up the new religion that prays to The Supreme Bankrobber and requires all members to wear ski masks, or the nylons if they're into fashion. What's to stop the state from saying no to this request, if she's able to wear her "veil"?
33 posted on 05/29/2003 12:07:49 PM PDT by lelio
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To: lelio
Another angle to use is that a lot of places use your driver's license as an id.

Here is something else that I can't get out of my head:

All these Muslim gals who come to this country have to have passports, don't they? Are they all photographed looking like this on their passports, in which case, what freaking use is the passport?

I don't understand how we can allow people in the country with this kind of a passport photo for ID.

Would the State Department issue a passport to someone with a bag on her head?

34 posted on 05/29/2003 12:07:53 PM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: Timesink
An article on CNN.com had the following summary on driving and ID photos in various Muslim countries:

"Driver’s identification rules in Muslim nations:

Saudi Arabia: Women aren't allowed to drive
Iran: Women wear a traditional chador, which does not cover the face.
Egypt: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
United Arab Emirates: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Oman: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Kuwait: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Qatar: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Bahrain: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Jordan: Women can drive if their faces are covered but do not cover their face in I.D. pictures"

In NONE of these countries are ID pictures done with the face covered. This, in the heartland of Islam.
35 posted on 05/29/2003 12:11:52 PM PDT by RussRoberts
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To: Extremist
Except for the Lone Ranger! Oh, and Batman, Spiderman, etc!

Of course, those are fictional characters. Except for Batman. :-)
36 posted on 05/29/2003 12:13:24 PM PDT by Andiceman
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To: PetroniDE
My conclusion: If she wants her driver's license, OFF WITH HER VEIL !!!

OFF WITH HER HEAD!

Sorry. Got carried away. Carroll moment :).

37 posted on 05/29/2003 12:13:38 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: PetroniDE
Beheadings and amputations are on Fridays, after morning prayers.
38 posted on 05/29/2003 12:15:36 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Legion; Puppage
Didn't she use to play goalie for the dart team?

Fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down?

39 posted on 05/29/2003 12:16:25 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Timesink
How long is this 'trial' going to last and when will a decision be reached? It should have never even come before a judge it's so ridiculous.

41 posted on 05/29/2003 12:17:36 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Timesink
For some reason, Sandra Keller's nose reminded me of someone else......
42 posted on 05/29/2003 12:17:45 PM PDT by Lockbar
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To: Timesink
The plot just thickened.
43 posted on 05/29/2003 12:19:48 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Lockbar
Am I the only one who thinks she's not ugly? Plain? Yes. Ugly? No.
44 posted on 05/29/2003 12:23:21 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Timesink
Let her have her drivers license with the vail. However, let her know that if she is stopped for an infraction of the law she will be arrested until the police can ascertained who the "H___" she really is. (Which might take several hours or several days.
45 posted on 05/29/2003 12:26:35 PM PDT by chainsaw
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I love your tag line.
46 posted on 05/29/2003 12:26:53 PM PDT by Is2C
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To: Alouette
How can she drive a car when her peripheral vision is obstructed by that bag on her head.

How can the rest of us drive if she doesn't?

47 posted on 05/29/2003 12:30:41 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Timesink
Even with the veil, she might have been detected, using face recognition software. One of the primary metrics they use, as I recall, is the distance between the eyes. It just would have taken a little longer, and she might have abused a few more children before being caught. What a creep.
48 posted on 05/29/2003 12:31:57 PM PDT by giotto
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To: SHOCKNAWE
Ugly - The crooked nose tells us her mother would prop her up in the corner and feed her with a sling shot.
49 posted on 05/29/2003 12:32:22 PM PDT by chainsaw
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To: null and void
Plain on the outside ugly on the inside.
50 posted on 05/29/2003 12:32:30 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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