Posted on 01/16/2024 7:32:40 PM PST by Sunsong
I agree. The premise may be true but the reasons ring hollow. China can get oil from many sources. They may not be interested in banking or finance with Russia but that’s probably because they have 5-10-15 year down the road planning. If they are doing anything, it’s less to do with fear of near term economic repercussion and more because it suits their vision. A weak Russia is in their interests and they are probably sitting back smiling as the mess in Ukraine weakens and distracts Russia, Europe and the US.
Nuke who?
“Why do zeepers think leftest news sources are credible?”
This should be the first thought of everyone.
“Send in the Western sanctions clowns!”
Joe Boggs is demanding more pay to continue making a TOTAL FOOL of himself by spending 2 years promising the world that the Russian economy is going to collapse.
“China is having its own economic problems. They may not be interested in foreign investment period, and less so with Russia. Perhaps it even suits them to see Russia weakened further.”
I would wager that China is looking out for China. Period.
It probably would “suit them” to watch putin weaken russia.
Because the dollar is doing so great, right?
Why do the supporters of communism, murderous dictators, terrorist organizations, terrorist regimes, etc. come up with childish, juvenile comments like "Zeepers"? Why do they find state sponsored "news" and propaganda sources credible?
For China?
They’ve already been nuked.
They’re responding to the high probability of a Trump presidency.
They’re playing the futures market and have discounted their anticipated future.
Who, exactly, are the “supporters of communism, murderous dictators, terrorist organizations, terrorist regimes, etc.” on FR?
So, annexing 40,000 square miles of land that comprised 70-80% of Ukraine's GDP, building a land bridge from mainland Russia to Crimea and controlling almost all of the Black Sea coastline is not an example of winning?
That is all the land Russia ever intended to liberate going into this war.
You're so filled with hate that you can't even think rationally about the war or about Russia.
People are like you are danger to safety of the planet.
That's what I am saying. Putin doesn't have to cheat to win.
What's absurd is for people like you to claim that Ukraine is somehow better than what you imagine Russia to be.
Zelensky has imprisoned opposition leaders and banned all opposition parties. Ukraine murders dissents, even ones that American citizens like Gonzalo Lira, and destroys churches. It's modern-day founding father was a Nazi sympathizer.
That we're fighting against tyranny and for democracy in Ukraine is laughable to any the least bit informed.
Everyone's economy is CLAPSING!!!
The muscovites are rich in natural resources, but does that translate into goods?
Why did they depend on western optics and electronics for their arms, why are a majority of cars sold Chinese now? Why did they go to countries and buy back helicopter engines sold to them?
Why hasn’t the t-14 or 57 show up on battlefield?
Why are they buying munitions from Iran and NK?
Why are they having all kinds of problems with heat plants, pipes and electrical grid?
Understand I don’t think they are close to collapse, who knows but all is not well and the narrative that sanctions have no effect seems unlikely.
There is a saying, things go slow till they don’t. Who predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union?
To all here who attack the messenger and not the message, that is not an argument for your case
Indeed the border is being overrun with people trying to get in to join the SMO, er ah for wealth and luxury lol
“They may not be interested in banking or finance with Russia...”
And that’s been a real interesting, and in many ways frightening, development that China and Russia adjoined diplomatic relations about the time the Soviet hold imploded in Russia around 1991. And this was after centuries of mistrust, posturing, aggression, and an occational small armed conflict. Together they have learned how to use each other’s resourses to change the power balance in the world.
Of course, it won’t be with military intervention as many places in the world have the capacity to wipe out the planet. But they mesh well in trade which posts a threat to other nations as Russia is now doing with their oil and natural gas control. And China is rapidly losing it’s war with taking care of their people as they continue to grow faster than they can stay up with and are now expanding into other countries. Japan had the same problem in the early 1940’s only they decided to fix it by force. And the US was and is one of targets with both financial and agricultural concerns. They may have discovered you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar and you can get nutrients out of honey at the same time. Course that also gets back to how many ways of skinning the cat, too.
wy69
utter BS
And China is rapidly losing it’s war with taking care of their people as they continue to grow faster than they can stay up with and are now expanding into other countries.
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China has no social safety net - no Social Security, no Medicare/Medicad. The CCP gives a rat’s patoot about the people - the only time they actually care is when they disappear unruly people.
China’s population is declining, and the economy is one real estate (40% of the economy) crash from total implosion.
Yet, fools like you insist on doubling down on Biden's failed sanction and proxy war being conduct on behalf of his WEF masters.
Foreign Direct Investment into China turned negative (net outflow) in 2023, for the first time in over 30 years.
They don’t want to trigger a worse stampede.
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