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Beware of Kafkatrapping
The Daily Bell ^ | August 14, 2014 | Wendy McElroy

Posted on 12/17/2023 6:29:59 PM PST by TBP

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
there would have been no need to import as many immigrants as they did

"Need to import immigrants" has always been a dangerous claim. Look at what the Biden gang is doing. "Immigrant" inflation is at Weimar levels.

41 posted on 12/17/2023 10:36:52 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: TBP
t. The Trial is Kafka’s comment on totalitarian governments, like the Soviet Union, in which justice is twisted into a bitter, horrifying parody of itself and serves only those in charge.

Like people have no standing to challenge blatant election fraud and illegally conducted elections in a republic.
42 posted on 12/17/2023 10:48:04 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: TBP
....The Trial is Kafka’s comment on totalitarian governments, like the Soviet Union, in which justice is twisted into a bitter, horrifying parody of itself and serves only those in charge

I read 'The Trial'. It is actually a metaphor about judgement before God. The book even has a chapter where someone stands in a door to the God's and never even given a peek inside his whole life.

43 posted on 12/17/2023 11:03:37 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: TBP
Model A: The accuser states, “Your refusal to acknowledge that you are guilty of (sin, racism, sexism, homophobia, oppression…) confirms that you are guilty of (sin, racism, sexism, homophobia, oppression…).”

The only effective reponse:

"I am shocked... shocked! that you would level such an accusation at me! You yourself are obviously motivated by ingrained racism. And don't you try to deny it! A hateful racist like yourself would say anything at this point to try to wriggle out of it!

Regards,

44 posted on 12/17/2023 11:36:15 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: TBP

Bkmk


45 posted on 12/17/2023 11:41:41 PM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
"Immigrant" inflation is at Weimar levels.

There actually weren't all that many "immigrants" (legal or illegal) entering Germany during the period of the Weimar Republic.

Regards,

46 posted on 12/17/2023 11:41:47 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: CatHerd
Oh - The Metamorphosis, not “The Cockroach”.

Looks like someone else got hold of a bad translation... 😃
47 posted on 12/18/2023 1:47:20 AM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: TBP

bkmk


48 posted on 12/18/2023 2:39:10 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (In a world of parrots and lemmings, be a watchdog.)
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To: 5th MEB

i say that regularly now at just about every drive thru I pull up to. straining quite hard to understand the gibberish coming thru the speaker!!


49 posted on 12/18/2023 2:54:24 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: alexander_busek

You miss the point. The currrent skyrocketing number of illegal entries into the US is inflating like the Weimar currency inflation.


50 posted on 12/18/2023 3:22:08 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: TBP
Kafkatrapper...


51 posted on 12/18/2023 4:33:38 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: TBP

I’ve learned the only response to this is a two word anglosaxonism. There’s a hand gesture appropriately accompanying this.

BTW, in “the trial” only the first and last chapter need to in that order, all other chapters can be read in any order. Kafka did this purposely so as to magnify the absurdity of the story.


52 posted on 12/18/2023 5:02:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: TBP

Kafkatrapping twists reason and truth.

Didn’t know the democrat party and MSM used the same code name.


53 posted on 12/18/2023 7:23:41 AM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: one guy in new jersey
The baseless accusations constitute contumely. According to Catholic moral doctrine, contumely is a grave sin.

And where did those nasty Catholics get that crazy idea?

Oh, yeah: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".

54 posted on 12/18/2023 7:30:59 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

“...false witness...”

Contumely is different. More monstrous than mere falsity.

See #30 please.


55 posted on 12/18/2023 9:21:23 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
OK. I saw #30; you make a fair point. The nebulousness of it, and the unceasing repetition make it worse than "mere" false witness.

It isn't just the vague accusations of "racism" or "whateverphobia".

Always referring to an "opponent" or "rival", in public speeches and public writing, by a disparaging "nickname" is definitely a form of "contumely". Thank you for putting a name to something I instinctively saw as wrong.

56 posted on 12/18/2023 9:28:28 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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57 posted on 12/18/2023 9:56:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Apparatchik

Ha! (laughing) Yes, the title is Metamorphosis. The critter he is transformed into is often translated as “cockroach” although it’s actually rather vague in the German. Anyway, I haven’t read it in decades. All that Existentialist stuff I had to read back then was so depressing and weird, I never want to revisit it. Anyway, I always thought of it as “The Cockroach” and have the same aversion to Existentialist Lit as to those nasty bugs lol.


58 posted on 12/18/2023 11:09:07 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: NorthMountain

It gets a ton worse than nicknames between public figures. Raging hostility by non-public actors at non-public individuals, impeccable timing to maximize damage..it seems at times, if you’ve seen it in person, only the intelligence of Satan and his minions can orchestrate this kind of brutal misbehavior.


59 posted on 12/18/2023 3:56:53 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
if you’ve seen it in person, only the intelligence of Satan and his minions can orchestrate this kind of brutal misbehavior.

Certainly. I've seen it, and it's horrible. (See also a lot of corporate "harassment training", which generally portrays a particular group as the perpetrator but never the victim.) It's also encouraged by misconduct at the highest levels. The incessant use of contemptuous, pejorative "nicknames" by public figures encourages similar bad behavior among the general public. It sets a bad example. I used to do that, I now strive to turn away from it, even as regards people I find to be truly loathsome.

60 posted on 12/18/2023 4:55:44 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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