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Demands For Proportionality Are Meant to Handcuff Israel: If Israel yields to these demands, it will only mean a longer, more deadly war
American Thinker ^ | 12/18/2023 | Allan J. Feifer

Posted on 12/18/2023 8:28:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Leftists are highly focused on the subject of proportionality in Israel’s ongoing war against Hamas. Relying on dubious casualty statistics from within Gaza, they claim that Israel has gone beyond a “just war” into a “genocidal” war because they are not acting “proportionately.” This is a specious argument. Wars are ugly, but Israel is waging its war in the most humane way possible.

Still, there is an entire industry of anti-Israel and anti-Western activists seeking to bind the good guys with rules guaranteed to stymie their success on the battlefield.

One of Hamas’s most powerful weapons is the willingness that its supporters in the West show when presented with Hamas’s claims about civilian casualties in Gaza. These numbers are designed to enrage an uneducated and unsympathetic group of similarly inclined sheep. They’re also almost certainly fake. It’s unlikely that Gaza, which is in disarray, can instantly have accurate casualty counts. Moreover, the numbers are clearly gamed.

Currently, Israel is killing about 1.7 civilians per terrorist. However, according to Lauren Leatherby, this constitutes a “historic pace” when it comes to civilians killed during wartime. She then compares Gaza to Ukraine, where troops went out to meet the Russians in the field. In fact, considering that Hamas has embedded itself among civilians (hospitals, schools, apartment buildings), this is an extraordinarily low number of civilian casualties. So, what are we really talking about here?

One quickly discovers that, in the context of Israel and war, proportionality’s meaning is an endlessly flexible word that’s simply meant to limit a disfavored party’s ability to wage war effectively.

Image: Handcuffs by wirestock.

Think about this for a moment. The actuality of war is not being challenged—instead, just its intensity. Proportionality is a strange construct that attempts to civilize something that cannot be civilized

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TOPICS: Gaza; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; proportionality
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1 posted on 12/18/2023 8:28:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re dead. We’re not.


2 posted on 12/18/2023 8:38:24 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are 500 million Arabs and 12 million Israelis.
So take the number of Israelis killed on Oct 7th - 1200 and multiply time 500/11 for a proportional response.

So the proportional response would be to kill 50,000 arabs.


3 posted on 12/18/2023 8:39:33 AM PST by MMusson
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To: SeekAndFind

Long, drawn-out wars are what the Globalists want. More arms sales, more profits, more payouts to the politicians.

“10% to the Big Guy” ™


4 posted on 12/18/2023 8:40:00 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: SeekAndFind

If Israel fails to destroy Hamas in this war, Hamas will rebuild and attack Israel again (in a year, or five years or a decade, as long as it takes for them to rebuild).


5 posted on 12/18/2023 8:40:18 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

“”””One of Hamas’s most powerful weapons is the willingness that its supporters in the West show when presented with Hamas’s claims about civilian casualties in Gaza. These numbers are designed to enrage an uneducated and unsympathetic group of similarly inclined sheep. They’re also almost certainly fake. It’s unlikely that Gaza, which is in disarray, can instantly have accurate casualty counts.””””


Biden and the media are excelling in propagandizing that 20,000 people have now been killed in Gaza.

20,000 dead people would create quite a stench if left unburied.

I have not seen any videos of funeral burials in Gaza in the past 10 weeks.

Could the spate of Gaza funerals be that not all that many people have been killed????


6 posted on 12/18/2023 8:40:55 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: MMusson
There are 500 million Arabs and 12 million Israelis.

Many of the Gulf Arabs are tired of the Palestinians. They won't say that out loud.

Iran is the problem. Cut off the head of the snake, many of the problems in the Middle East will get resolved (for the time being).

7 posted on 12/18/2023 8:41:43 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Or as the leftists argue all the time about ‘election fraud’——

Where is the evidence of election fraud?

So we need to be asking the leftists-—

Where is the EVIDENCE that 20,000 people have been killed in Gaza in the past 10 weeks?


8 posted on 12/18/2023 8:44:45 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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I have not seen any videos of funeral burials in Gaza in the past 10 weeks. Could the spate of Gaza funerals be that not all that many people have been killed????

Is it possible that the gaza residents did have the intelligence to actually believe the Israeli warnings in advance to leave or be bombed?

9 posted on 12/18/2023 8:44:57 AM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: SeekAndFind
US policy is to prolong wars and profit from them.

In effect wars for markets all over the world. War itself is the market.

10 posted on 12/18/2023 8:52:47 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Salman

War is a racket.


11 posted on 12/18/2023 8:54:54 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Proportionality in war is the stupidest concept anyone has ever come with... or the cleverest one, if you are losing.


12 posted on 12/18/2023 8:59:39 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone who calls for “proportionality” in War is either biased or has never studied war.


13 posted on 12/18/2023 9:00:49 AM PST by rbg81
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To: SeekAndFind
Leftists are highly focused on the subject of proportionality

Well, that accounts for our post WWII efforts. We wouldn't want to break things and hurt people disproportionately.

14 posted on 12/18/2023 9:01:49 AM PST by pfflier
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To: MinorityRepublican

Many of the Gulf Arabs are tired of the Palestinians.


Virtually all Arabs are apparently tired of the Palestinians. Nobody seems to want them. Wonder why? And why are they the only ‘refugees’ from the 40s still in ‘camps’?


15 posted on 12/18/2023 9:07:20 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
The Left want proportionality? Wouldn't proportionality mean Israel must kidnap, rape, torture and kill Gaze residents?

But the Left would claim they already do. The response would be, "proportional to population numbers?"

16 posted on 12/18/2023 9:12:20 AM PST by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: ComputerGuy

As far as Muslims go, Jews are dead ... we’re next


17 posted on 12/18/2023 9:16:52 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: SeekAndFind

US needs to get out of the way. Let Israel have its moement of Shock and Awe.
It will shorten the war, and limit the casualties.


18 posted on 12/18/2023 9:22:44 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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Further videos of the interior of “desperately overloaded” hospitals show that most of the people moving around in them are males between 18-30.


19 posted on 12/18/2023 9:35:17 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: antidemoncrat

Palestinian flag with Arabic writing on it says, “On Saturdays we kill Jews; on Sundays we kill Christians”.


20 posted on 12/18/2023 9:37:08 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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