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Losing the Plot: The “Leftists” Who Turn Right
In These Times ^ | 12 Dec 2023 | Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet

Posted on 12/12/2023 1:26:19 PM PST by Drew68

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To: Drew68

I’m not reading all that but congratulations - or condolences.


21 posted on 12/12/2023 2:47:49 PM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: Drew68

I didn’t read the entire article...Lefties are always and forever lefties. I Donn’t trust any of them even if the switch to the right. What better way to take over?


22 posted on 12/12/2023 2:57:31 PM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: devane617

Exactly, that’s how the Neo-Cons infiltrated the GOP, and turned it left.


23 posted on 12/12/2023 2:59:22 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Drew68

Plants. Fakes.


24 posted on 12/12/2023 3:02:01 PM PST by albie
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To: Drew68

If they are sincere, they need to stay where they are and work to bring the Democratic Party to some sense of sanity.


25 posted on 12/12/2023 3:03:24 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Fuzz

So you’re trying to say what?


26 posted on 12/12/2023 3:03:46 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dfwgator

And, I see lots of ‘suspect’ switching—Dallas Mayor—lately that had me puzzled.


27 posted on 12/12/2023 3:03:54 PM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: Drew68

I’m familiar with many of the people mentioned here and one thing that almost all of them will tell you is that they didn’t move to the right. They were excommunicated from the Left for not buying 100% into the Left’s ever-changing and expanding woke requirements to be a member of their club. The Right merely welcomed them.


Folks,

Read it slowly and let your lips move.

But it does lead us into what is conservatism:

https://kirkcenter.org/conservatism/ten-conservative-principles/

Read the above slowly and out loud for what should unite us.


28 posted on 12/12/2023 3:04:42 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Drew68

Death to communism.


29 posted on 12/12/2023 3:04:57 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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To: Drew68

“ He’s a Marxist; he sees culture as secondary to material conditions.”

You can see how crazy these people are to even think like this.


30 posted on 12/12/2023 3:04:58 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Steely Tom

“ I always thought Naomi Wolf was an intelligent woman.”

That’s very generous of you. She only has a doctorate from Oxford.


31 posted on 12/12/2023 3:05:42 PM PST by stanne
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To: Drew68

later


32 posted on 12/12/2023 3:05:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: devane617

Like Reagan and Trump?


33 posted on 12/12/2023 3:09:12 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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To: Drew68

This “thing” (I would hardly call it a “piece” because it such a transparent confused rant) brings out a significant point.

The author believes (I mean really believes, like Christians believe in Christ’s divinity) in some unifying right-wing Evil. All sorts of ideas from across multitudes of ideologies don’t really count. What matters is the big Evil.

Trump, who doesn’t seem to me to be ideological at all, somehow has found and joyfully represents the Evil of the Holocaust, Slavery, the exploited proletariat, child abuse, sexual violence and every other historical badness that a weak education left in the author’s mind.

I think the author is a true believer in “The Great Satan” and should recognize fellowship with Islamic leadership in Iran. After all, If Cat Stevens could find and recognize a new home, then all leftists may want to head that way.

I propose that all the leftists that used to promise to move to Canada if elections didn’t go their way should now unite and move to Iran.


34 posted on 12/12/2023 3:09:12 PM PST by 2manydegrees
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To: Fuzz

They were never lefties.

In fact there was a time when Southern Democrats were more conservative than Northeastern Republicans.


35 posted on 12/12/2023 3:11:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Drew68

There’s the concept of “luxury beliefs”, beliefs which confer status, have no real cost if you are wealthy, but have a cost if you’re poor.

https://www.robkhenderson.com/p/status-symbols-and-the-struggle-for

Leftists are slowly discovering that their status-generating beliefs WILL impose a real cost on them, and they don’t like it.


36 posted on 12/12/2023 3:11:56 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: dfwgator

Holy crap. A freeper recognizes party switch mid last century the southern strategy?

Nice.


37 posted on 12/12/2023 3:15:05 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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To: Drew68

Personalities drift, including those of writers, of magazines, of readers. Is the author unaware of former conservatives drifting left?


38 posted on 12/12/2023 3:27:34 PM PST by jimfree (My 21 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: Drew68

But the present left-to-right acceleration began in earnest with the onset of the Trump years, in 2017.


Interesting observation from the article.

One voice in the wilderness can have an effect. Now we need add ours continually.

But we need to know down deep why we fight. It will be a long fight, and some of the enemy can be educated. But we can’t give what we don’t have.


39 posted on 12/12/2023 3:31:45 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: stanne
That’s very generous of you. She only has a doctorate from Oxford.

"Dozens of mistakes identified in Naomi Wolf’s University of Oxford doctoral thesis raise challenging questions for British graduate education and its examinations process, according to a historian.

The American feminist’s D.Phil. dissertation has attracted interest in recent years because it was the basis for her 2019 book, Outrages: Censorship and the Criminalisation of Love, which was pulped by her U.S. publisher after she wrongly claimed that Britain had in the Victorian era executed several men for being gay.

Other factual errors were also spotted in a reissued edition, with several of the men cited as examples of antigay injustice actually having been convicted for sexual offenses against children and animals.

The mistakes led to questions about how they were missed by Wolf’s supervisor and examiners, but her dissertation remained under embargo for six years after being examined in April 2015.

Naomi Wolf's Dissertation -- Public at Last

40 posted on 12/12/2023 3:38:06 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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