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Without a Second Amendment Private Gun Ownership Low in Israel
Breitbart ^ | Oct 8, 2023 | Awr Hawkins

Posted on 10/08/2023 4:14:20 PM PDT by chickenlips

As the world watches the atrocities of the past few days unfold in Israel — including Hamas terrorists going door to door to kill Israelis — it is notable that Israel does not have a U.S.-like Second Amendment and private gun ownership among Israelis is low.

The BBC reported that “Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population.” In contrast, the findings of a recent study by Rutgers University’s New Jersey Gun Violence Research Center estimated upwards of six in ten Americans own guns.

The difference, in large part, is the Second Amendment. Israelis are allowed to own guns at whatever level their government approves whereas Americans have a birthright to gun ownership that is protected by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Israelis are also limited in the type of firearms and quantity of ammunition they can own. The BBC observed, “Usually citizens are allowed to hold a pistol and a limit of 50 bullets.” In all but the bluest states, Americans can own almost any gun imaginable — including machine guns — and can have as much ammunition stored and ready as they can afford.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guns; israel; isreal
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Some interesting info here on Israel, but IMO the author implies to the reader that it is easy to purchase and own an automatic firearm in much of the USA.
1 posted on 10/08/2023 4:14:20 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: chickenlips

Related: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4187885/posts


2 posted on 10/08/2023 4:18:31 PM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: chickenlips; Jaysin
H/T Jaysin who’s in Israel and needs our prayers.

In America, owning a gun is a constitutional right. In israel it’s a privilege. Huge difference.
Regular joe schmoes like me have to provide a reason to own a gun and they dont make it easy to get one.

3 posted on 10/08/2023 4:18:45 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: chickenlips

More here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4187942/posts?page=21#21

😁👍. 🇮🇱


4 posted on 10/08/2023 4:19:03 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉 🇮🇱)
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To: chickenlips

I remember reading about gun ownership in Israel back around 1968. I could not believe the rules and regulations back then for citizens in a land surrounded by so many enemies.


5 posted on 10/08/2023 4:20:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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Israel Weapon Industries makes some of the finest firearms for the American civilian market yet the average Israeli cannot own them.


6 posted on 10/08/2023 4:27:27 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: chickenlips

I was in Israel during the second intifada. Everyone open carried. Many people had guns. I was back in Israel about a year ago. No guns in sight. What happened?


7 posted on 10/08/2023 4:30:06 PM PDT by kaila
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Yes imagine how it would have gone if the little cockroaches had been knocking on doors in Suburban Atlanta. 🤔


8 posted on 10/08/2023 4:32:51 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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It isn’t all that hard. Until 1986 all you had to do was fill out a form get fingerprinted and pay $200 and then wait until the slow walking ATF approved the sale. In 1986 that changed significantly. You still had to do all of the above, BUT you could only buy a full auto that was made PRIOR to Reagan signing the gun control ‘86 into law. As a result the price of full auto soared. In 1981 a M60 NIB ran $2200. I look online recently and the price is around $80,000 for a used one. So while technically the average non criminal American can buy one, practically they are priced out of the reach of almost everyone honest. Gang bangers of course can buy conversions or stolen military without regard for the law.


9 posted on 10/08/2023 4:33:14 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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>author implies to the reader that it is easy to purchase and own an automatic firearm in much of the USA.

Roughly 50/50 as far as the states are concerned. First, you have to find one for sale. In the Bush years, NFA firearms were plentiful. Even M2 heavy machineguns were for sale. Less so nowadays. Then you need to pay the $200 tax stamp fee, endure a fed colonoscopy and wait about a year.

It’s not difficult but you need to be patient.


10 posted on 10/08/2023 4:43:12 PM PDT by fretzer
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Israel has opened all shooting complexes where civilian population’s weapons are stored, so that people can retrieve them and ensure their own safety.

Israel is mobilising their civilians.
https://twitter.com/etoptimist/status/1710651038985076906


11 posted on 10/08/2023 4:48:12 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yeah, I’m surprisedthey aren’t more like us, or the Swiss...


12 posted on 10/08/2023 4:48:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: kaila; chickenlips; metmom
kaila :" I was in Israel during the second intifada. Everyone open carried. Many people had guns.
I was back in Israel about a year ago. No guns in sight. What happened? "

It would appear that Israel depends on an armed perimeter at its borders in order to assure public safety.
Hopefully, they will see the folly of their ways, and reconsider their current circumstance and status.
Once Hamas had broken through the perimeter, there was no way for police, or public authorities, or civilians to defend themselves.
"You learn more from your failures than you do through your successes" - Hopefully an unfortunate lesson learned the 'hard way'.
If they don't learn from this experience and change their behavior and laws, ..it will occur again.

13 posted on 10/08/2023 4:49:23 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( )
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To: chickenlips

This news (to me, I’ll confess) is just astonishing.


14 posted on 10/08/2023 4:54:03 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: chickenlips

Insanity


15 posted on 10/08/2023 4:55:28 PM PDT by LibertyWoman (America, the Handwriting is on the Wall. )
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To: chickenlips

NEVER AGAIN rings pretty hollow, doesn’t it?


16 posted on 10/08/2023 4:56:36 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ping!


17 posted on 10/08/2023 5:12:56 PM PDT by NautiNurse (🇺🇸)
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To: chickenlips

My brother lives there, and I can confirm the 1 handgun and 50 rounds rule. I was dumbfounded. People living in the territories have a bit more leeway to get a rifle, but have to jump over many hurdles to do that, despite IDF training.

I sincerely hope that they learn something from this very expensive lesson that they are going through right now, and massively change their current laws to be more similar to the ones in red states in this country. It will ultimately save many thousands of lives over the next several decades.


18 posted on 10/08/2023 5:24:29 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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I keep wondering why those living on hostile borders in Israel, do not have household arsenals, just for situations like what occurred this weekend? Better to go down with guns blazing than have terrorists come to your door to murder. Why unarmed civilians? I thought kindegarten teachers packed machine guns there!


19 posted on 10/08/2023 5:24:35 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( If you come to a locked door, just pull the nearby fire alarm to unlock the door.)
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To: chickenlips

What many people don’t realize is that something very similar happened on the US-Mexico border on March 9, 1916. Mexican bandit/revolutionary Pancho Villa crossed the border into New Mexico and attacked the town of Columbus with 500 men.

17 Americans were killed. At least 70 of Villa’s attacking force were killed.

There was a small garrison of US troops in the town, but significant numbers of Villa’s troops were killed by heavily armed civilians.

Israel would do well to take notes and implement a 2nd Amendment of their own.


20 posted on 10/08/2023 5:44:45 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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