The wise disregard everything after those two words.
So I didn't have to read your Wall of Text. 
Posted on 07/07/2023 1:48:13 PM PDT by Republicans 2016 2020
US President Joe Biden has reportedly made the decision to provide cluster bombs to Ukraine's armed forces to enable troops to target well-entrenched Russian forces on the front lines.
The US administration is expected to formally announce this action on Friday (July 7) as part of a new military aid package valued at $800million.
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Amen. 🙏
Russia has been using them against civilians as an invading force, and Ukraine wants these more advanced versions to use them against the incredibly entrenched Russian Army.
From wiki
“The cluster munition attack with the highest known civilian casualties occurred on April 8, 2022, when Russia launched a Tochka-U ballistic missile equipped with a cluster munition warhead at a crowded train station in the eastern city of Kramatorsk as hundreds of people were trying to leave the area. A detailed Human Rights Watch investigation found that the attack killed at least 58 civilians and injured over 100 others.[14]
The following cluster munition attacks since May 2022 were predominately undertaken by Russian forces and demonstrate civilian harm from these weapons.[15]
Russian armed forces used cluster munition rockets in attacks on Kharkiv city and nearby areas in Kharkivska region in May 2022 according to an investigation by Human Rights Watch.[16] Two volunteers were wounded on May 12 when a cluster munition rocket pierced the roof of a cultural center in Derhachi, near Kharkiv city. Two civilians about a kilometer away were killed, at around the same time, by submunitions – possibly from the same rocket. On May 23, a cluster munition attack struck a maternity clinic in Kharkiv city, wounding a man at a bus stop outside the clinic.
Ukrainian armed forces reportedly used cluster munitions in attacks on Izium city, Kharkivska region, between March and September 2022, when it was controlled by Russian armed forces, according to the Independent Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine.[17] The commission provided three examples illustrating this use of cluster munitions in Izium: a May 9, 2022 an attack on a residential area that killed three people and injured six; a July 14, 2022 attack on the central market that injured two older women; and, a July 16, 2022 attack on a residential area that killed two older persons.
Uragan cluster munition rocket attacks by Russian forces on the city of Sloviansk on June 27, 2022 killed a man and wounded three other civilians, according to Agence France Presse.[18]
Russian armed forces used cluster munitions in an attack on city of Kryvyi Rih in Dnipropetrovska region on July 9, 2022, killing two civilian women and wounding a civilian man, according to a statement by the Dnipropetrovska region Prosecutor’s Office.[19]
A Russian attack using Uragan cluster munition rockets killed a 70-year-old man and wounded two civilian women in an apartment building in Chuhuiv city, Kharkivska region on August 3, 2022, according to local authorities.[20]
A cluster munition rocket attack by Russian forces reportedly killed two civilians and wounded 12 others near a public transportation stop in Mykolaiv on September 29, 2022, according to local authorities.[21]
Russian armed forces used cluster munitions rockets in at least three attacks on Kherson city in November 2022, according to Human Rights Watch.[22] One attack wounded three people as they were walking down a city street on November 21.
An Uragan cluster munition rocket attack by Russian forces on the town of Hirnyk, Donetska region on December 12 killed two civilians and wounded 10 more, according to the Prosecutor General’s Office.[23]
Russian forces fired Uragan cluster munition rockets near the central market in the town of Konstyantynivka in Donetska region on March 18, 2023, wounding at least six civilians, according to the region’s governor.[24] That same day, Russian forces used cluster munitions in an attack on the city of Kramatorsk, which killed at least two people and wounded eight.[25]
A Russian cluster munition attack on the village of Malokaterynivka in eastern Ukraine on May 10 wounded eight people including three emergency medical workers, according to the governor of Zaporizka region.”
this piecemeal, ad hoc decision making reveals how stupid and wrong were the DC-bubble/MIC/Uniparty's original assumptions, and that they have no plan or clear strategy going forward.
Biden the war criminal. Along with being a regular criminal, a pedophile, a rapist and an all around demonic scumbag.
“Good! That gives Russia excuse to use banned tactical nukes.”
Idiots here can’t wait for them to resort to strategic nukes.
The wise disregard everything after those two words.
So I didn't have to read your Wall of Text.
I have read enough of your posts to know that you avoid learning and being well-informed on these sorts of topics.
You have things you want to post and knowing the facts might cause you conflict and weaken your passion for posting the things you do.
Injured soldiers tie up more resources than dead soldiers.
Cluster munitions make a lot of both.
Russia will have to come up with a better reason to start using nuclear weapons to conquer countries.
“Many countries, including major arms producers like the United States, China, Russia, Ukraine and Israel, have not joined the treaty, which prohibits all use, stockpiling, production and transfer of the weapons.”
The “anti-war left” (sarc) is fully on board with this.
What is nuts about it?
Sending CBU artillery rounds is two tacit admissions.
One, we are scraping bottom of the barrel. We don’t have anymore conventional ammo to send them. We were in the process of scrapping old CBUs from the cold war era and filling the cases with basic explosives and concrete for training rounds. So those being scrapped are about all we have left to send them...
Two, this is a tacit admission Ukraine knows it isn’t getting those areas back... ever. So they do not care about littering the area with grenade sized bomblets. Farmers and kids and hikers will find them for a long time, or the Russians will have to spend years finding them.
This cluster bomb aid is weakness, not strength.
Posted to another thread as well.
Caption for the first graphic in the article, "Cluster munition."
"U.S. Honest John missile warhead cutaway around 1960, showing M134 bomblets filled with Sarin."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_munition
Caption for the second graphic: "Half of a surface-to-air missile site in North Vietnam blanketed in exploding bomblets dispersed by a U.S. cluster munition, Vietnam War"
So Russia, Ukraine and the United States have not validated the Convention on Cluster Munitions (2008).
Looks like cluster munitions will have a nice application today. Boom. Cheer yours, when "they" are on the receving end. Complain about theirs, when "we" are on the receiving end. That's how we do it. Did it. Will continue to do it.
At some point, people will realize it’s not just weapons Ukraine needs or wants. They need cohesive trained combat formations. And I’m sure that they will be provided. And so it begins.
We have a giant stockpile of them in 155 arty rounds. They are expiring and the submunitions are going bad so we have been dismantling them and rebuilding them as training rounds.
This is basically the last of the old 155 stockpile we have left to provide. It means we have no more stored standard ammo to give them.
“It’s a shame more people don’t volunteer to fight”
Hard to see a downside - after all it’s only Ruzzian civilians that will die.
(Neocon position)
Kudos. Agree wholeheartedly. It's none of our business. Excepting the military-industrial complex' business which of course is somebody's business, as the debt climbs higher and higher. "War is a racket."
“Do we provide small slices of any invaded nation to the invader?”
Is this about Serbia and Kosovo ?
Check
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