Trump Pledges to Obliterate Deep State in High Energy Bedminster Speech

National File ^ | June 14, 2023 | CHARLES DOWNS

[PIF]

Almost no one knows what he said, except a very few, since all the major news outlets except Faux and a few specialty places like FR refused to cover him, and will likely continue to refuse to cover Trump during the election as well. Leaving most voters only knowing one side.

[nopardons]

BTTT

[pierrem15]

They actually cannot differentiate the concepts between the administrative state and elective representatives

They do distinguish them. They just prefer the administrative state. That's also why the EU Commission refers to "democratic values" and not democracy. "Real" democracy is the elite ramming their values down everyone else's throats. That started here with Wilson, extended with FDR but really took off with the Warren court's "privacy" confabulations and the creation of the alphabet agencies in the 60s.

Another big problem is that this extends to the so-called "private" sector: publicly traded corporations are not actually controlled by their owners, but by their managers. They are the same class as the bureaucrats, coming from the same social background and getting the same homogenized education.

So what we have now is a revolt by the managerial class in both government and business against actual democracy and an attempt to impose a corporate-fascist one party state. The woke social communism is just a fig leaf for this takeover, since the managerial class learned in the 60s that most Americans will roll over for any infringement of their rights in the name of combating "discrimination."

[Vaduz]

The deep state is tyranny with only one hand around our neck and the other one is nearing.

[going hot]

The Dems have been trying to undermine Trump for 8 years now, but this time Trump has apparently done it to himself.

Yeah, THIS TIME! They Got HIM! He got hisself!

[bigbob]

I don’t know. But if an agency was created by an act of Congress, such as I recall Homeland Security being created after 9-11, it would seem to take another act of Congress to eliminate it. And no matter who says they’ll do so, we know that ain’t happening...

[Varsity Flight]

⬆️☑️✍️

[CharlesWayneCT]

Yeah, if only we had a Trump-like President from 2016 to 2020 to destroy that deep state stuff before the Pandemic, so that the 2020 President couldn’t lock down the country and give the democrats 2 trillion dollars of spending.

It amazes me that people are willing to vote for a guy who will be a lame duck and accountable to no-one, who proved when he actually had to get people to vote for him again that he was not going to do half of what he promised.

Today is a great day to remember one of many such promises. Today is the anniversary of the illegal DACA program. Trump promised to get rid of this program “immediately”. He did not. And in fact, at some point, he actually tried to work with Democrats to overcome republican opposition and actually make DACA the law of the land.

“We’re working out the legal complexities right now, but I’m going to be signing a very major immigration bill as an executive order, which the Supreme Court now, because of the DACA decision, has given me the power to do that,”

They’re going to be part of a much bigger bill on immigration. It’s going to be a very big bill, a very good bill, and merit-based bill and it will include DACA, and I think people are going to be very happy.”

I know some will argue that while Trump did not get rid of the deep state, or build much of a wall, or do a bunch of other things, it was because he could NOT do those things, because there was “too much opposition”. He could not get rid of the deep state, because the deep state was just too strong for him. He couldn’t get things done because of the Mueller investigation. Because he did not have enough support in congress. Because too many of his cabinet officials did not do what he told them to do.

This all may be good. But I have to wonder why anybody would support a President who was elected to do all these things, and was incapable of doing them because of opposition. Why re-elect failure? What makes you think he will be able to do ANYTHING in 2024 that he was incapable of doing in 2017?

Why did he appoint so many horrible people? Why didn’t he fire Comey on day 1? Why didn’t he shut down the Mueller investigation, which he had the power to do? Why didn’t he withdraw the Sessions appointment once Sessions said he would recuse? How did John Bolton end up in the administration?

We can always be happy that Trump and the republicans in the house and senate passed the 2017 tax bill, that Trump used the Federalist list for his supreme court justices, and that Trump did a bunch of things that ANY republican president would do that helped the economy.

But in 2020, it would have been nice to have a president who cracked down on protesters, especially the ones who took over parts of a state and declared their own country, or the group that was assaulting a federal courthouse for 3 months. Or a president who didn’t try to lock down the country, give Fauci control over our pandemic response, or push for trillions in spending for it.

Or maybe just a president who didn’t, after losing an election, throw away 2 senate seats because he had a hissy fit, and join the democrats promising more free money to people, which eventually was part of the democrats trillion-dollar inflation-causing bill which would NOT have passed if just ONE of the two georgia senators had won their election.

[CodeToad]

“How do you think you know what Trump is doing?”

You should judge someone not on their words but by their actions. His prior actions were tough talk, tough negotiations, great decisions making, but he is completely fearful and ignorant of government power, law enforcement, and the politics, not to mention his choice of direct reports has been terrible. Nothing he has done shows that his lack of understanding of such things has changed.

[SoConPubbie]

Aww, Did your Never Trumper feelings get hurt?

[CharlesWayneCT]

He wasn’t ready after 4 years of being the most powerful man in the world? Seems like a really STEEP learning curve there. He wasn’t ready enough to just return the classified documents, rather than CLAIM he returned them while talking other people working for him to break the law and hide them?

A lot of the people who support Trump now just haven’t figured out that he is actually self-absorbed, and does not make rational decisions or behave like a reasonable person might. We could all laugh at this stupid “documents” investigation, because we knew every President ended up with some documents, and we of course assumed Trump was truthfully saying that he had returned all of the documents when he was asked to do so.

We had no idea that a person who was once charged with defending the country would instead hide documents, or show classified maps to Kid Rock just to “impress him”. We expected Trump would behave rationally.

[CodeToad]

“I don’t think he’s afraid of the demoncraps, or the republicants, anymore.”

I hope you are right. I hope being indicted, spending some time under law enforcement authority in a jail, has caused him to get mad, understand the power they have, and put the fear of God into him, and hardened his resolve to stop playing by gentlemanly Queensberry Rules and start playing by school yard rules liberals play by. I hope he becomes a true political fighter and stops being a negotiator. He needs to kick ass, take names, and exterminate his enemies.

[CodeToad]

“I don’t recall him saying obliterate the Deep state as a campaign promise in 2016, but maybe he did.”

You mean you never heard “drain the swamp”? Really? Are you just young and were an oblivious teenager at the time?

[cgbg]

“we will obliterate the Deep State and we know who they are.”

President Trump hired a bunch of them in his first administration.

Lol.

[1Old Pro]

We expected Trump would behave rationally.

Yea, like Biden

[Ezekiel]

Trump Pledges to Obliterate Deep State in High Energy Bedminster Speech<<<

He said this the first time, but the eGOP threatened to allow him to be impeached by the dems so Trump froze and did nothing.

Here's a worthwhile trip down Memory Lane:

It was Flag Day 2012. Donald Trump's 66th birthday. In NYC...

The media gushed over Obama's "vow" (thinly veiled curse) that he wrote in cursive, in red ink, on a beam that was to be installed at the top of WTC1...

"We remember. We rebuild. We come back stronger!"

This occurred well after dinner:

Did the 2011 White House correspondents' dinner spur Trump to run for president?
Feb 26, 2017

An inspiring directive indeed. Written by Pharaoh's own left hand.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

[CharlesWayneCT]

why do you believe Trump would learn anything about who he hires?

He had 4 years, and his hires at the end of his term were just as bad (he says) as the ones he hired at the start. He just fired the lawyers he hired to defend him in this case. He hired Cohen. He hired Guilliani to fight the post-election cases.

Trump clearly cannot do it. I don’t think he even cares to do it. He’s upset he couldn’t win the election after his disastrous COVID response and his failure to defend the country from the summer riots, and all he wants now is to “win again”. After that, good luck.

[CodeToad]

“Americans now know for sure that there’s even something called a Deep State..”

We knew decades ago there was the deep state. This isn’t new. It is why we wanted Trump, because he came down that escalator and fired back, something no republican has ever done outside of Reagan.

[CodeToad]

“Let’s start with the FBI, for instance. What exactly would he do?”

If Trump was sincere about stopping that corrupt crime organization, he would simply sign an executive order abolishing it since it was established using an executive order.

[dware]

And would not go a long to get along.

While I want to agree, because that is who Trump is, the truth is, he won't go along to get along until the Senate hands him a list of pre-approved nominees that they will confirm. The people that Trump needs won't be on that list. I truly believe this is what happened his first term, and it will happen again to him, to DeSaster, or anyone else who manages to get elected on the Republican side. Democrats get who they want, however.