Posted on 06/15/2023 7:13:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
It’s an example of poor judgment.
. I look forward to hearing from President Trump what he will do during a second term as he campaigns during the primaries and during debates.
Every day is another example of poor judgement.
Today’s offering is the PPP program — over $200 billion in fraudulent loans given out by Donald Trump’s SBA, with no oversight. Not even using existing databases that would have clearly identified some of the big fraudsters.
As a lot of those turned out to be liberal groups who then donate to democrats, Donald Trump was instrumental in a program that provided cash to democrats to defeat him and other republicans in the 2020 election.
It seems that, rather than draining the swamp, Trump was pouring dirty water into it.
You should try not to divide into two parts a single thought, as if they exist in a vacuum.
If you believe, as you seem to suggest, that the democrats stole the election in 2020, how do you believe they will be stopped from stealing the election in 2024?
In 2020, Trump was the executive in charge of the federal elections. He was responsible for federal law enforcement. He had power. And yet, you believe, the democrats stole the election from him, when he was the popular incumbent.
What is different now? Trump has no power. The apparatus is now run by the people you claim stole the previous election. Trump’s army of lawyers failed to win a single court case, so there is no change to ANY election law that existed in 2020 that you might argue helped democrats steal the election.
It doesn’t really matter whether you are right or not about the theft of the 2020 election. It is that you, and others, are delusional enough to believe BOTH that 2020 was stolen from Trump, but also that somehow, Trump can prevent them from stealing 2024.
I mean, I suppose you could argue that Trump might suddenly get smart, and do things to help steal the election back, like spending some of the money he raised for election on ballot harvesting.
Except Donald Trump has already asserted that he will not do any ballot harvesting, and that he does not even need any help to harvest ballots.
But I’m all ears — what changes from 2020 to 2024 will keep the thefts you claim happened in 2020, from happening in 2024? Heck, Trump and company couldn’t even win any lawsuits against the companies who provide the voting machines the Trump team claims helped steal the election — instead, those companies will have another billion dollars to help them steal more elections.
So, what makes you think we will go from unproven, unfindable, unexplainable theft of the 2020 election, to a clean, fair, honest 2024 election? Will you wish really hard on a star? Wave a magic wand (you can get them from Disney, a company Trump seems to love very much with their woke attacks on conservative values)
I had to step out for a while and don’t remember what we were talking about.
“If you believe, as you seem to suggest, that the democrats stole the election in 2020, how do you believe they will be stopped from stealing the election in 2024?”
Yes, I believe that. It was quite obvious to the most casual of observers. I’m not sure how they will be stopped. What’s the point?
“In 2020, Trump was the executive in charge of the federal elections.”
Nope.
” It is that you, and others, are delusional enough to believe BOTH that 2020 was stolen from Trump, but also that somehow, Trump can prevent them from stealing 2024.”
Nope.
“what changes from 2020 to 2024 will keep the thefts you claim happened in 2020, from happening in 2024?”
Maybe there are none, what is your point?
“So, what makes you think we will go from unproven, unfindable, unexplainable theft of the 2020 election, to a clean, fair, honest 2024 election? “
Uh... nothing.
Oh, now I remember, you were typing in from a mental institution! Well, cheers.
It sounds like you are one of those people who actually believe that Trump will somehow be more popular in 2024 than he was in 2020, and therefore will be able to overcome the cheating that you claim cost him (and almost no other republican) the elections in 2020.
Otherwise, your argument seems to be that we should nominate Trump because he somehow learned something from his 4 years of failing to do what he promised, and would therefore be better at it over his next 4 years; that he also would be actually conservative this time when he doesn’t ever need to win our votes again, rather than be more liberal than he was when he still needed our support; and that all the obstacles that were uniquely against him (and would not have been for any other republican president) will somehow not stop him this time —
And we should nominate him even though he is so much more unpopular now than he was in 2020 that he has no chance of winning if the democrats even are half as good at whatever you think they did to steal the election in 2020, in the 2024 election.
In truth, it is very likely:
- Trump will in fact not win the election
- If he did win, he’d be the same person he is today, a man who wants nothing more than to be loved by whoever is around him at the time, and who therefore would sell out most of what conservatives used to call their principles, in order to be loved by the people he wants to be loved by after he retires
- He will continue to pick the same kind of people to run things as he did his first 4 years, which either means people who don’t do stupid things Trump wants them to do, or , if you believe Trump is right all the time, people who are in fact incompetent.
- And if Trump is the nominee, we will likely lose the Senate, which I believe is something a lot of Trump supporters would be fine with because who cares about the country, the constitution, or the Supreme court, if we can’t have Trump as president.
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