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Why PRA does not apply - "Agency records are not presidential records."
1 posted on 06/14/2023 4:24:58 PM PDT by randita
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Oh look, another deadbeat loser working for the Deep state


2 posted on 06/14/2023 4:27:32 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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Why don’t they rename it “Democrat Review?”

When they start picking fly s*** off of rice in an effort to explain the legal case against trump, you sure as h*** know that the government should not be prosecuting a former president and leading presidential candidate over this document nonsense.


3 posted on 06/14/2023 4:27:46 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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I guess he is just going to ignore precedent


4 posted on 06/14/2023 4:27:48 PM PDT by roving (đź‘Śâš“)
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Makes no sense. ALL records are presidential records if in the presidents hands. Otherwise the president is not the ultimate power in the executive branch.


5 posted on 06/14/2023 4:28:30 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Which agencies are not under the executive branch?


6 posted on 06/14/2023 4:29:15 PM PDT by Raycpa
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I wish Trump would quit messing around and hire Barnes already.

https://youtu.be/rxCDVOmGPlo

Barnes Law says different.


12 posted on 06/14/2023 4:35:07 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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National Review is dying a thousand deaths.


14 posted on 06/14/2023 4:36:59 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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Why even post the crap from NR and McClueless?

NR died when Buckley did.


15 posted on 06/14/2023 4:37:50 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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Lost me at “Andrew C. McCarthy”


16 posted on 06/14/2023 4:38:30 PM PDT by stanne
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Did the judge in the Clinton sock drawer case draw that distinction?

No.


17 posted on 06/14/2023 4:39:40 PM PDT by odawg
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McCarthy does not impress me. Never has. Never will.
ANY Document that is handed to the President is a Presidential Record,
no matter which agency generates it.


18 posted on 06/14/2023 4:40:09 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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Oh ANDY McCarthy, not Charlie. No matter, both are ventriloquist's dummies. Charlie is Edgar Bergen's, Andy is Klaus Schwab's.

19 posted on 06/14/2023 4:40:09 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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It’s all BS. Every Presidential Library has documents so sensitive you have to have clearance to view them in a private setting.


21 posted on 06/14/2023 4:40:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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So, am I to understand bureaucracies hold the ultimate keys to power in our form of government?

And no, I didn’t read the article because it is being a pay wall.


23 posted on 06/14/2023 4:42:23 PM PDT by Yogafist
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This loser is one of those delusional @ssholes who really believes the President of the United States is subject to rules and regulations established by his own subordinates.

This type of idiocy wouldn't even pass muster in your local mom & pop business.

26 posted on 06/14/2023 4:45:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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Agency records are not presidential records.

McCarthy is a deep state piece of chit that is incapable of understanding the U.S. Constitution. He needs to understand exactly what the first sentence of Article II, section 1 of the Constitution means. Perhaps it is difficult for McCarthy since he never had a real job in his life. It’s difficult because he never founded and operated a business. He was never an executive.

Thinking like McCarthy relies on the notion that the permanent bureaucratic state does not answer to the President. He does not understand that all documents, processes, and procedures within the executive branch are for the benefit and at the direction of the President. The classification of records does not pertain to the President, but rather to everyone that works for the President. All laws and executive orders that address classified information direct everyone except the President on the procedures for classified information.

The Presidential Records Act even states the President chooses which records are personal or not, despite the Presidential Records Act is clearly unconstitutional per sentence 1 of Article II, section 1 of the U.S. Constitution. Only a moronic peanut farmer would have signed it into law, because it attempts to codify executive decision making. Only an idiot President would allow Congress to usurp executive powers.

McCarthy can place himself on the same cognitive level as Jimmy Carter.

32 posted on 06/14/2023 4:53:14 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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Alright, Andrew, this is it!! All your ramblings are on the line on this one. Either you are right or you are banished to the MAGA eternal enemy hell hole known as the Deep State. It appears McCarthy needs to go back to law school and attend a few lectures by Mark Levin. It’s a shame that lawyers like McCarthy and Barr let their personal prejudices destroy their legal objectivity.


34 posted on 06/14/2023 4:53:49 PM PDT by iontheball
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Article II section 1: “The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

No agencies and none of their work product are separate from the unitary executive as described above. The President is RESPONSIBLE for all agency work and documents, and they belong to him.


36 posted on 06/14/2023 4:56:58 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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He is wrong. The PRA also includes documents “received “ by the President. This would include classified briefings. Another point is that the documents in question or copies. The government still has the original documents.


37 posted on 06/14/2023 4:57:20 PM PDT by bort
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41 posted on 06/14/2023 5:03:51 PM PDT by Bratch
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