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3,000 of Russia’s feared Wagner mercenaries have already been killed in Ukraine after 8,000 were sent in to boost Putin’s flagging invasion, British MPs are told
Daily Mail ^ | 4/20/2022 | Chris Jewers

Posted on 04/20/2022 1:13:32 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: flamberge

“The shadow people who put Joe Biden in office are the international supervillains who provoked Vlad Putin into launching an ill-advised invasion...etc.”

Really, even if this proposition is true, and I don’t think it is, it still doesn’t relieve Putin of one ounce of responsibility for his actions, nor does it make his actions any more moral or make supporting him the moral choice. It’s a distraction as far as I’m concerned.

The only thing it would change at all is that one might be able to say “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, but even that logic fails, since Putin is no friend to any country in the world, not even his own.


121 posted on 04/21/2022 7:41:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Really, even if this proposition is true, and I don’t think it is,

We would need to acknowledge a fundamental disagreement on that last point.

The practical result is the assessment that we are in a trap where supporting the Ukraine is not in our best interests, and tolerating Russian aggression is not in our best interests. The enemy of our enemy can still be another enemy. There are no good pathways out of this.

The "Shadow People" who are our rulers are not incompetent. They are malicious. They do not have our interests at heart, and I am wary of supporting them in any project. Especially when "10% goes to the big guy".

I would like to see Russia fail in their invasion of Ukraine and withdraw. It isn't going to happen like that. Our rulers are just as crooked as their rulers, and they will reach some kind of accommodation. Probably one that involves "fighting to the last Ukrainian".

A good way to cover their tracks for all the "payoffs and the rip-offs and the things nobody saw".

War is happening because the rulers on all sides want it to happen.

122 posted on 04/21/2022 8:25:58 AM PDT by flamberge (How fast you run does not matter if it is in the wrong direction.)
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To: kiryandil

Shut up you MF sicko.

Somebody needs to punch your teeth out.

(The real Nazi’s are coming in from RuSSia.)


123 posted on 04/21/2022 10:03:18 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Vaden
The tiny little Soros puffer issues threats. Take care of Klaus after you're finished with Georgie.  winking face face with tears of joy face with tears of joy
124 posted on 04/21/2022 10:09:42 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: wastedyears

You Putler fanboi’s are STILL beating that dead horse. LOL

Now tell everyone WHO those “nazis” are fighting for and under??

Also, post the photos of Russia’s ACTUAL Russian Army group that are KNOWN nazis.

You walking pieces of excrement need shipped back to RuSSia where you belong.


125 posted on 04/21/2022 10:11:11 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: kiryandil

As ignorant as you are, I’m not suprised your tiny little delusional mind would repeat the same garbage.

All you Putler fanboi psychpaths are the same. You are like broken records.

Nazis.... click....Soros....click....Undefined corruption....click....Nazis....click....Soros....click....

How does it feel to defend a monster? How does it feel to be a psychopathic bastard? How does it feel to be a genuine duped moron?

By the way, I’m well over 6 feet and over 200 pounds. You talk big on the ‘net, but I’ll bet it’s YOU who are the little weenie. LOL


126 posted on 04/21/2022 10:17:31 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Vaden
By the way, I’m well over 6 feet and over 200 pounds. You talk big on the ‘net, but I’ll bet it’s YOU who are the little weenie. LOL

You're about the size of my little brother.

He always swore he was going to grow up to be bigger than me, and then give me a beating.

Well, that never happened.  winking face


ballad of the Vaden berets
Black keyboards upon their desk
These are men, the neocons' best
One hundred men will test today
But only three win the Green Keyboard.

sung to the tune of Barry Sadler's Ballad of the Green Berets

127 posted on 04/21/2022 10:21:45 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Know-it-alls like you are always just alike. The DUMBEST people in the room. You’ve probably always been a dumba**. You’ll probably be dumba** when you take your last breath.


128 posted on 04/21/2022 10:33:37 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Vaden
Actually went to college for free, tinyboy.

Mouthbreathers like you are a dime a dumbzen.

129 posted on 04/21/2022 10:48:19 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Politics makes strange bedfellows, part 901,835.

Khalifa Haftar and Wagner Group keywords, combined, duplicates out, sorted, a little editing:

130 posted on 04/25/2022 9:31:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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