Russia's UN envoy says no doubt Bucha provocation was staged

TASS Russia ^ | 4/4/2022 | TASS

[BobL]

“Nobody said the Russians are smart.”

Look up their math scores.

...then look ours up.

[Drew68]

I wonder if these people really believe these Russian lies?

Ukrainians have been killing their fellow countrymen for the past eight years.

Meanwhile, we’re supposed to accept that in Bucha Russian troops massacred civilians while attempting to withdraw, a crime that would have needlessly delayed them while serving no military purpose.

The same Russian troops who withheld their heaviest weapons in order to prevent civilian casualties, at their own tactical disadvantage.

The same Russian troops who have shipped huge amounts of food and medical aid to civilian areas under their control.

There is a contradiction between this story and the way Russia has conducted this war so far. And thought this entire war, journalistic verification tends to consist of nothing more than unnamed Ukrainian officials tweeting, “Trust me bro.”

And, oh yeah, photos shared by Ukrainian sources show Russian ration containers and white armbands on many of the victims, suggesting that some of the deceased were Russian collaborators.

Doesn’t pass the smell test.

[Dogbert41]

The AZOV guys are spread throughout Ukraine, through many units, many agencies, and many elected offices. They aren’t just in this or that battalion, but they all sport Swastika tattoos - men and women.

[Mariner]

How anyone in the US can be sure, either way, is baffling to me.

[Lurker]

“Look up their math scores.”

Everything about Russia is a lie.

Everything

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[BobL]

“Everything about Russia is a lie.”

I realize the need to believe that.

[Lurker]

“How anyone in the US can be sure, either way, is baffling to me.”

We spend hundreds of billions of dollars annually on “intelligence gathering”. Someone, somewhere better be damned sure. Otherwise we need lots and lots of public hangings.

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[Lurker]

I realize your need to reject that fact.

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[ought-six]

“4/2 AZOV Neonazis arrive in Bucha.”

Wait a minute. Weren’t all the pro-Russian trolls just days ago saying that the Azov force had been surrounded in Mariupol and wiped out, and its leadership tried to flee in helicopters that were then shot down?

[SunkenCiv]

• Satellite images show bodies lay in Bucha for WEEKS - disproving Russia's wild claims that more than 400 corpses were brought in AFTER Putin's troops left the Ukrainian town in a massive hoax

[mac_truck]

The AZOV guys are spread throughout Ukraine, through many units, many agencies, and many elected offices.

Concurring bump...here is Sergey Korotkikh one of the Azovs suspected of authorizing civilian atrocities in Bucha being honored by the former President of Ukraine. He is also reported to be close with the son of the former Interior Minister.

Korotkikh apparently uploaded video from Bucha which included someone asking if they could shoot anyone not wearing a blue armband and his affirmative response. Many of the dead civilians were wearing white armbands the Russians required them to wear. None were wearing blue ones.

[struggle]

>Wait a minute. Weren’t all the pro-Russian trolls just days ago saying that the Azov force had been surrounded in Mariupol and wiped out, and its leadership tried to flee in helicopters that were then shot down?

Maybe in your mind. I don’t care one way or the other, but I’m not going to just trust everything fed to me. It just depends on how much diving you’re willing to do into the issue.

[kiryandil]

Alex Christoforou from The Duran said very much earlier today that if the UN investigation proposal got shot down [he had just heard news of the Russians proposing an independent investigation], it was a sure sign that Bucha was a false flag.

He appears to have been right, as usual.

[kiryandil]

The AZOV guys are spread throughout Ukraine, through many units, many agencies, and many elected offices. They aren’t just in this or that battalion, but they all sport Swastika tattoos - men and women.

UkroNazi einsatzgruppen gonna einsatzgruppen.

Their Nazi forebearers also had einsatzgruppen or flying squads to kill civvies.

[The Duke]

"There are no good guys here. And that includes our government."

I would like to strongly echo that statement.

[yesthatjallen]

[yesthatjallen]

Global lies over Bucha: How people’s minds are manipulated

Ukrainian special forces found no bodies in Bucha

March 31. Mayor of Bucha is happy and doesn’t see any corpses either

[yesthatjallen]

CIA - 70 years in the Ukraine (10 mins)

AERODYNAMIC CIA in Ukraine

[Kazan]

It’s quite interesting the British vetoed a request by the Russians for UN investigation into the matter.

[Nextrush]

I think they want Christopher Steele to head up the probe...sarc