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Driver of truck that killed 5 bicyclists on Nevada highway had high level of meth in his system, prosecutors say
CBS ^ | 12/17/20

Posted on 12/17/2020 11:38:41 AM PST by Meatspace

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To: Watershed
Just wondering what the ALLOWABLE amount is.

Whatever amount Biden* needs to function in public.

41 posted on 12/17/2020 2:00:34 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: OrangeHoof
A bunch of idiots made the choice to ride their bicycles on a highway. Too bad they were killed but smarter decisions about where to go cycling could have saved their lives.

Many bicyclists feel very entitled - and some will go to early graves feeling that way.

42 posted on 12/17/2020 2:06:11 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Meatspace

Just another reason for me as an old bicyclist to stay on bike trails and low speed neighborhood roads. If the drivers are going above 40mph I don’t won’t to share the road with them. They do seem to be even crazier lately too.


43 posted on 12/17/2020 2:25:17 PM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: Meatspace

Waiting for the “drugs, the victimless crime”.


44 posted on 12/17/2020 2:26:21 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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Waiting for the “drugs, the victimless crime”.

Read the thread - it's been covered (post #21 in particular).

45 posted on 12/17/2020 2:30:32 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Meatspace

look, everybody has a right to do what they want with their bodies...drugs should be legal because we all know that people take their responsibilities seriously..../s/


46 posted on 12/17/2020 2:32:01 PM PST by cherry (TRUMP WON!)
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look, everybody has a right to do what they want with their bodies...drugs should be legal because we all know that people take their responsibilities seriously..../s/

So you support banning the impairing drug alcohol? Or are you a hypocrite?

47 posted on 12/17/2020 2:40:24 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Bernard Marx

If you can’t see ahead on a curve, slow down.

If you’re unable to stop in time, and hit a stopped car, the accident is your fault. Same is true if you hit a pedestrian or bicyclist on the shoulder of the road.

When you “used to drive trucks and when they’re fully loaded it takes a while to make a panic stop under the best conditions”, then you slow down so you can stop in time. If you don’t, you and kill someone, its murder.


48 posted on 12/17/2020 2:40:49 PM PST by OVERTIME (Tammie Lee Haynes)
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"...the accident is your fault..."


Absolutely correct. Drivers have a responsibility to be sober and maintain control of their vehicles.
This collision happened in daylight conditions, on a straight desert road, with clear sightlines.


49 posted on 12/17/2020 2:52:06 PM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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10 miles an hour in a 60 mile an hour zone,


50 posted on 12/17/2020 2:53:59 PM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Meatspace

They can get a result for blood alcohol content on the spot. Not so with drugs, even though the introduction of such instant drug tests have been announced for a decade or more.

Organizations continue the successful push to make drug testing effectively difficult or impossible as a legal tool. Most police are afraid of enforcing drug abuse laws, and that’s in the states that haven’t legalized drug abuse. People who do drugs will continue to be a deadly threat on the roads and everywhere.


51 posted on 12/17/2020 3:01:36 PM PST by familyop
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To: Bernard Marx

If you can’t see ahead on a curve, slow down.

If you’re unable to stop in time, and hit a stopped car, the accident is your fault. Same is true if you hit a pedestrian or bicyclist on the shoulder of the road.

When you “used to drive trucks and when they’re fully loaded it takes a while to make a panic stop under the best conditions”, then you slow down so you can stop in time. If you don’t, you and kill someone, its manslaughter


52 posted on 12/17/2020 3:08:35 PM PST by OVERTIME (Tammie Lee Haynes)
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To: TexasGator

Pull out your dictionary and look up the word “initial”.


53 posted on 12/17/2020 3:11:35 PM PST by Fresh Wind ("This claim about election fraud is disputed.")
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To: gloryblaze

Yep that’s what they reported. Of course they are delusional during these times. Oh the stories they told, scary in fact.


54 posted on 12/17/2020 3:13:19 PM PST by crager (I went to look for myself and if I happen to return while I'm gone tell me to wait.)
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To: familyop

The meth may have had nothing to do with the crash, but they are going to come down on that meth head like a ton of bricks. He put himself it a very bad place and they are going to make him pay.


55 posted on 12/17/2020 3:14:50 PM PST by Meatspace
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To: familyop

“Organizations continue the successful push to make drug testing effectively difficult or impossible as a legal tool.”

The article is evidence against your claim. Do you have any evidence in support of your claim?


56 posted on 12/17/2020 3:15:10 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: OVERTIME

Life must be wonderful in your Mayberry world where there’s no bumper-to-bumper 80-mile-an-hour freeway traffic, where the laws of inertia have been repealed, where everyone obeys all the rules all the time and there are no complete idiots on the freeways. It would be nice to live there but I don’t. Take your bike onto the freeway anytime you like, I won’t object. I won’t send flowers to your funeral either.


57 posted on 12/17/2020 5:16:52 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Blue Jays

I’m not trying to shift blame, just pointing out a fact. I ride bicycles and motorcycles, so I have personal experience with road conditions.


58 posted on 12/17/2020 5:17:36 PM PST by Disambiguator
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"...I ride bicycles and motorcycles, so I have personal experience with road conditions..."


Same here. This cycling route would not be my cup o' tea or first choice, either.
At the same time it is not a vast ten-lane superhighway. It is a smaller highway traversing the desert.
The DUI truck driver needed to be sober, in full control of his vehicle, and mindful of other lawful roadway users. He will be punished.


59 posted on 12/17/2020 5:42:22 PM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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“During my years of drug counseling I’d ask each the meth users how many days or longest they would’ve stayed awake before crashing. The most extreme cases were 29 days without sleeping the longest was 32 days.”

FALSE. The longest a human can stay awake before their body shuts down and death occurs is approx 11-12 days. It’s entirely possible these tweakers spent the majority of that time awake, but they were absolutely nodding off here and there and taking 30-60 minute disco naps. Tweakers are notorious for bragging about duration of sleep deprivation. They’re also notorious for having terrible memories and making things up. I’ve personally stayed awake for 3-5 days at a time, and done so on many occasion, and it’s NOT an easy thing to do, even with the assistance of high purity methamphetamine. Day three is when the visual hallucinations begin. Day four is when the audible hallucinations begin. There is nothing spookier than sitting alone in your home and you begin to hear symphonic music playing, but it’s just your mind playing tricks on you. Also worth noting is that habitual users with high tolerances typically sleep on a nightly basis. I reached a point where I couldn’t stay awake for more than 24hrs, even if I wanted to, and I was smoking on average a gram a day.


60 posted on 12/23/2020 12:51:53 AM PST by Richard_Dick
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