Posted on 10/24/2020 4:14:07 AM PDT by Kaslin
Energy issues, and the Green New Deal specifically, may end up being the political death of a potential Joe Biden presidency. During his debate with President Donald J. Trump on October 22nd, former Vice President Biden embraced the idea of banning fracking and eliminating the American oil and gas industry.
That was a big mistake.
It seems like Biden has fallen for the fallacy that supporting the radical environmental agenda is good politics. He may have spent too much time in coffee shops in Delaware and on Amtrak trains to understand the financial struggle many Americans are facing. His leftist advisors may dream of a world without gas powered cars, yet most Americans in fly over America care more about cheap energy and jobs.
The polls indicate a landslide for Biden on November 3rd, yet these are the same polls that indicated Hillary Clinton was also going to win big in 2016. The reason why Hillary lost was that she fumbled away Democrats in the so called ‘Rust Belt’ when she proclaimed that she was going to shut down the coal industry.
Democrats have become the party of eliminating fossil fuels when so many Americans work in that space. They talk about ending oil and gas while adopting the left’s rhetoric of hatred of fracking. Seems nuts that Joe Biden is moderate enough to understand that he needs to pump the brakes on packing the Supreme Court, yet he has pushed all of his electoral chips in on a radical anti-energy agenda that appeals to liberal elites. Good luck finding enough latte sipping Americans who drive electric cars and have solar panel roofs on their houses to balance off the 9.8 million voters, not including their families, supported by the oil and gas industry.
In March of 2016 Clinton embraced a radical left energy policy. Clinton said, “I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. Because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business." As reported in Business Insider on September 7, 2017, Clinton wrote in her book about the campaign “that her biggest regret from the campaign trail last year was saying she would put coal miners out of business.” That one comment may have cost her Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin which cost her the White House.
The polls rolling up to the 2016 election hid the signs of danger for the Clinton campaign. Five Thirty Eight projected that Hillary Clinton had about a 5 percent lead in Wisconsin, 4 percent lead in Michigan and 4 percent lead in Pennsylvania. The actual result was a 1 percent victory in Wisconsin, 0.3 percent victory in Michigan and 1 percent victory in Pennsylvania for President Donald J. Trump. The voters in these important swing states were not willing to vote for a Democrat who promised to put them out of work.
Now the issue is the Green New Deal and the specific issue of fracking has captured the Biden campaign. CNBC reported on September 8, 2020, that “Fracking spurs a rust belt rebound in manufacturing.” Fracking is popular in the states that Trump needs to flip, if you believe the polls, yet Biden has adopted a position on this issue that flips the bird to voters in these same swing states that launched Trump into the White House. Any rational campaign aid would have told Biden before the debate to avoid a comment that will alienate rust belt voters.
Democrats have gone crazy on the issue of climate change. They have adopted the radical left’s Green New Deal that promises to eliminate petroleum products like gasoline. Nick Loris of The Heritage Foundation describes the proposal as “essentially banning the internal combustion engine and transitioning to electric vehicles, high-speed rail, all of these things that are economically costly right now and will be for a very long time.” Loris points out that “the reason that 92% of our transportation needs are met through petroleum products is because they're affordable and reliable.” Loris is spot on to point out that the cost to consumers of this idea is astronomical. Middle- and low-income consumers of fossil fuels, in addition to people working in the fossil fuel industry, will be hurt badly if Biden has his way.
Sleepy Joe may get a wake-up call on Election Day thanks to his embrace during the final debate of banning fracking and eliminating the American oil and gas industry.
There are so many reasons why this guy should lose, so much evidence such as nobody showing up at his rallies, yet the media keep telling us he’s ahead in the polls. HOW?? The idiot DOES NOT CAMPAIGN! I mean being “not Trump” can only get so many votes
I keep wondering who Jay Leno [with his massive collection of gas powered cars] is voting for.
47% of the electorate is certifiably insane.
This is true. The only thing Biden really has to run on is the Chinese Covid Cooties ... and a lot of women and former American “men” really truly believe the widespread lie that Trump has mishandled things and the even bigger lie that Biden/Harris could do better rather than make things far worse. Then again, these people have been oxygen-deprived for months from persistent mask-wearing and have replaced rationality with fear.
I have never understood why what’s wrong with getting rid of fossil fuels is only spoken of in terms of jobs that would be be lost. What about the fact that some people here in NE PA still heat with COAL, a tremendous number of people heat with oil and natural gas and only a fraction of today’s cars and trucks run on electricity?
like all “climate” grifters, Joe promises “explosive job growth” via “green power”.
ask the people in Scotland or Spain how the renewable energy job promises worked out for them:
17 Apr 2019: GMB Union Scotland: GMB Scotland responds to renewable energy jobs report
Responding today (Wednesday 17 April) to the publication of the STUC Report, ‘Broken Promises and Offshore Jobs: Employment in the low-carbon and renewable energy economy’, GMB Scotland Secretary Gary Smith said:
“The report reinforces what we have consistently argued about the reality of renewables employment and the challenges posed by the transition to a low carbon economy. Ultimately, it shows what happens when politicians preach and don’t plan...
“The manufacture of 100 turbine jackets and five floating platforms for the Moray East and Kincardine projects will not take place in Fife but in Belgium, the North East of England, Spain and the United Arab Emirates; the result of our industry being controlled by European state subsided energy firms, Far East finance and Middle East sovereign wealth, and their supply chain partners of preference.
“This is what long-term political failure looks like and the price is paid in the loss of thousands of jobs and billions of pounds of prosperity to the Scottish economy, starving hope from working class communities in regions of economic deprivation like Fife.”
https://www.gmb.org.uk/news/gmb-scotland-responds-renewable-energy-jobs-report
18 Apr 2009: Midland Reporter-Telegram: Spanish study finds 2.2 jobs destroyed for each green job created
President Obama has claimed that tax subsidies to alternative energy and environmental penalties to fossil fuels “can create millions of additional jobs and new industries.” Obama has even cited the government of Spain, “where they are making real investments in renewable energy.” However, a new study of the subsidy program implement by Spain reveals that every new job created by the Spanish government in the alternative energy area destroyed an average of 2.2 other jobs.
The study - prepared under the direction of Dr. Gabriel Calzada, an economics professor at Juan Carlos University in Madrid - discovered that only one in 10 jobs created by the program in Spain were of a permanent nature (operations, maintenance, etc.), and two-thirds consisted of temporary jobs in construction, fabrication and installation...
https://www.mrt.com/business/energy/article/Spanish-study-finds-2-2-jobs-destroyed-for-each-7481656.php
Venezuela is a good example of the Green New Deal. They shut down their energy sector - through corruption, not by design. Now they have no energy and no food.
He’d be stupid to vote for Biden, but he’s a liberal, so he deserves what he gets if he votes for Biden.
as for this -
23 Oct: Morning Consult: Biden Said He Would Transition From the Oil Industry. Nearly 3 in 5 Voters Support That Move
Democrats and independents that ex-vice president is courting overwhelmingly back a phaseout, while 41% of Republicans support
By Lisa Martine Jenkins
But according to a new Morning Consult/POLITICO poll, 57 percent of the country’s voters back a concerted oil-to-renewables transition, while 28 percent oppose it...
https://morningconsult.com/2020/10/23/post-debate-oil-gas-renewable-energy-poll/
James “climate change” Murdoch would approve the above poll results, no doubt!
13 May: Bloomberg: James Murdoch’s Firm Is Among First to Invest in Morning Consult
By Katie Roof
Lupa Systems is a private investment firm founded last year by James Murdoch, the son of media magnate Rubert Murdoch. It previously invested in Vice Media and the owner of the Tribeca Film Festival.
nothing like partnering with Bloomberg/Politico/NYT to give your online polling credibility...not:
Wikipedia: Morning Consult, privately held data intelligence company established in 2014...
specializes in online survey research technology...
In 2016...began polling with Bloomberg News on investor sentiment...
During the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Morning Consult and the political journalism company Politico published a weekly polling partnership...
Morning Consult conducts regular survey research with The New York Times...
In May 2020, Morning Consult completed a $31 million Series A funding round. The funding includes capital from JAMES MURDOCH’s Lupa Systems, Advance Venture Partners and others...
You left out the burning cities.
Half of America is halfway to Jonestown.
When the Chinese need the organs, the Democrats will put out the Kool Aid.
Well-presented. Just as are the Democrat/Left governors doing, “climate change” or “global warming” or a “new ice age” (whatever the hell it’s called today) is being promoted as the new “good reason” for lockdowns and restrictions; Consider all the “carbon emissions” that have been reduced resulting from these governors’ deliberate actions to shut down the economy and curtail social interraction. However, the lesson learned isn’t that lockdowns are a good thing ... the bigger lesson learned is that fear works amazingly well to control American “men” and women.
One word:Solandra
Well, now, maybe that’s Joe’s plan ... his long-range strategy to stop burning down the cities ... eliminate the sources of fuel to do so! (See, I can think like a Democrat/Leftist if I try really hard ... and not have any coffee yet at 4:41 on a Saturday morning!) Cheers!
And that’s literally all he has—he’s not Trump.
He never HAD the Pennsylvania fracking/gas/oil vote ...... period.
Pennsylvania is one of those states that the fortunate landowner can get a monthly check.
I own 2 1/4 acres .... not much, but it is enough to pay for my monthly gasoline usage and a few groceries every month because of royalties.
Eight or so years ago this was only rumor, but once there were enough signers (they paid a liberal X amount per acre sign up, and about a year to wait for drilling, fracking and production ... in came those monthly royalty checks.
The democrat vote that ALWAYS screws the Pa. vote up is Filthydelphia and the PITtsburgh, Allegheny county.
THOSE are the commie strongholds that USED TO always be able to sway Pa. blue.
Remember, I own 2 1/4 acres which is NOTHING to a LOT of Pa landowners.
If you drive around rural Pa, you'll notice a lot of new construction ... barns, corrals, etc.
Country folk know what to do with free money.
Screw YOU, joe.
The Socialist Left wants to do away with oil/gas/fracking as a source of power which will do away also with gasoline powered cars/boats/trucks/generators/lawn mowers/etc and substitute electric powered vehicles/tools. What is being overlooked in this transition is the trade in value of the last sequence of gas powered vehicles/etc to complete the transition.
It is part of the car buying experience, new or used, to use the present value of our vehicle to apply to the purchase price of the new vehicle, new or used, and finance the balance of cost of purchase if necessary.
If there is no fuel available for our gas powered vehicle then what is the value of that vehicle? I doubt if you could even give that vehicle away, if there was no fuel available to power the vehicle and a car is too big to be a paper weight.
I think the value of the no gas available vehicle would be pretty close to ZERO therefore no trade in value to apply to purchase price of new vehicle. How many millions of car value would just disappear if the DemoRats gain control of our Constitutional Republic?
I would love to see Pres Trump make that economic point of loss in the pre election days we have left. How about you?
Deplorable Lives Matter!
NONE of today’s cars and trucks run on electricity.
Those that claim to actually run on coal and natural gas.
That's easy. His corporation buys the gas for his cars. It's the same as Biden with his expenses being paid by his s-corp as part of his tax avoidance. The rest of us can go to hell.
Yes you are exactly right. Energy jobs are rare because they are so productive. Coal miners, and to a much greater extent oil and gas workers, produce roughly 10 times as much energy in one hour than a solar panel installer produces in one year. Of course the panels keep producing, but even adding up all the "free" energy from the panels, the payoff is about 10 years.
There will indeed be lots of manual labor jobs installing panels. But it will be very low productivity and require trillions for the panels themselves. And the energy payback will take 10 years minimum.
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