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The Chinese Army Flops in India. What Will Xi Do Next? | Opinion
Newsweek ^ | Gordon C Chang

Posted on 09/14/2020 4:29:35 AM PDT by cold start

In China, "another brutal purge" is coming.

Ruler Xi Jinping, already roiling the Communist Party with a "rectification" campaign and mass persecution of foes, has risked his future with recent high-profile incursions into Indian-controlled territory.

Unfortunately for Xi, he is the "architect" of these aggressive moves into India and his People's Liberation Army (PLA) has unexpectedly flopped.

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Beginning in early May, Chinese forces advanced south of the Line of Actual Control, the temporary border between the two giants, principally in three separate areas in Ladakh, high in the Himalayas....

The May incursions took New Delhi by surprise. As Cleo Paskal of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies tells Newsweek, Moscow in April had assured India that large-scale Chinese maneuvers in its Tibet Autonomous Region were not preparations for a move below the Line.

China also took India by surprise on June 15 in the Galwan Valley, the northernmost of the three areas of incursion. In a premediated move, Chinese troops killed 20 Indian soldiers. It was the first deadly confrontation between the two giants in 45 years.

Beijing is accustomed to getting its way in disputed territory, especially because Indian leaders and soldiers, "psychologically paralyzed" by their loss in the 1962 border war with China, played only defense.

Paralyzed no more. China is thought to have suffered at least 43 deaths in the Galwan clash. Paskal says the number of Chinese killed could exceed 60. Indian troops fought back ferociously. Beijing won't admit the extent of the debacle.

Then, beginning late last month, for the first time in a half-century, India carried out an offensive against China, taking back high ground the Chinese recently grabbed. China's forces were surprised when Indian troops mounted their attempt to retake strategic high points. Stunned Chinese soldiers retreated. .....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; india; xi
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1 posted on 09/14/2020 4:29:35 AM PDT by cold start
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To: cold start

Indians might be terrible coders but every one I know has a heck of a temper. And they are quick to boil.


2 posted on 09/14/2020 4:34:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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Indians and Chinese are the most racist people on the planet. They hate each other and they hate whitey.


3 posted on 09/14/2020 4:35:59 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

Japs are close...


4 posted on 09/14/2020 4:48:02 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: cold start

This is the fearsome military that will eat our lunch at sea, according to some.

Call me skeptical.

No, actually i’m not. I’m sure we’d beat the hell out of them.


5 posted on 09/14/2020 4:52:49 AM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABO UT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: Monty22002

The indoctrination by the U.S. Media has been so effective, that when you tell people the United States may be the least racist country in the world, they refuse to believe you.


6 posted on 09/14/2020 4:54:03 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Monty22002

Asia as a 2hole is a seething cauldron of racism and ethnic intolerance, unmatched anywhere else on the planetop save for perhaps Africa, where tribalism still rules.


7 posted on 09/14/2020 4:54:26 AM PDT by Noumenon ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: dp0622

One of the great questions I’ve always had about the communist military is whether or not the masses of troops on the ground would really fight in any scenario other than to stave off an invasion of their homeland. Reports of the attrocities toward their own troops in the Russian and Chinese revolutions, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, etc. would lead one to believe that only the threat of death from their rear makes them dedicated to waging war. The continuing purges of the officer corps would lend weight to that thought.


8 posted on 09/14/2020 5:00:28 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: Noumenon

Around 10 years back, I used to follow the blog of an American guy working in Korea, and he’d get Korean, Chinese, and Japanese commenters that would go into 3-way racist verbal brawls that most Westerners would not believe...


9 posted on 09/14/2020 5:04:39 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Liberal / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling...)
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To: Rlsau1

Well my uncle saw the waves in Korea and he said it was terrifying but they looked just as terrified.

Hard to read faces but he said it’s like they knew they were fodder and when they dropped it meant their gun would become available for another chinese soldier to come and die.

And even in modern times, a number of Russian soldiers said they had no desire at all to go into Crimea.

But I figured Chinese soldiers are so indoctrinated from so early on to believe in whatever cause they are fed, that they would be gung ho. That might not be the case.


10 posted on 09/14/2020 5:06:52 AM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABO UT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: Monty22002

Racist.. There’s that word again... I’m so damned sick and tired of hearing that word.. Some folks pull it out and use it like a Billy club..


11 posted on 09/14/2020 5:11:34 AM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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To: cold start

Shades of the Red Army in Finland 1940.


12 posted on 09/14/2020 5:13:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Noumenon

Racism as described in Asia is the natural condition. Diversity as defined by radical left is is unnatural and forced utopian Drivel.

BLM is similar drivel intended to force the anti human forced diversity.


13 posted on 09/14/2020 5:15:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies.....all of them)
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To: dp0622
I agree with you, we would beat the hell out of them-today.

Our problem is not today but the Chinese timeline horizon. In the fullness of time the Chinese do not intend to beat us in a throwdown, they intend to change the nature of the game, the players and their alliances, the geography. They also intend to neutralize American advantages, hence the new battlescape is likely to be in outerspace, digital space, psychological space.

They changed geography by building islands, they change the alliance situation by intimidating their neighbors-so far reaping only an unintended opposite effect-they are competing asymmetrically in the Third World and with 5G etc.

Psychologically, they are counting on the American left and the European left to indulge their penchant for appeasement until there is nothing left to defend. Meanwhile, they count on Western cupidity to sell out every essential Western institution from our media, our academia, our financial centers, our technology.

How long is our timeline?


14 posted on 09/14/2020 5:30:23 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: unread
Racist.. There’s that word again... I’m so damned sick and tired of hearing that word.. Some folks pull it out and use it like a Billy club..

Monty is right, the asians and indians are the most racist people on the planet.

They hate whitey but they hate each other even more.

The hate among the slant community is the absolute worst of all, chinese, japanese, korean, etal are absolutely convinced that their particular version of the slant is far superior to the other ones {which the round eyes cannot tell apart}.

The level of hate and racism among the asians, has to be seen to be believed, and I have seen it,

15 posted on 09/14/2020 5:35:01 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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wow. Great post.

Our timeline is 4 to 8 years if biden wins?

A four year delay and maybe even buy some time if Trump wins?

A longer delay and maybe turnaround if Trump and we take back the higher institutions and media and set the narrative in the country? which will be BRUTALLY hard


16 posted on 09/14/2020 5:46:59 AM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABO UT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: freedumb2003

Howstupid are their American employers to hire those terrible coders by the millions?


17 posted on 09/14/2020 5:49:12 AM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: marktwain
The indoctrination by the U.S. Media has been so effective, that when you tell people the United States may be the least racist country in the world, they refuse to believe you.

Also the public education system has done such a p*ss poor job that most of our population is utterly clueless about the realities in any country outside our own.


18 posted on 09/14/2020 5:52:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: marktwain

The fact is US began as a racist country with practice of slavery of the negro race. There were no white slaves. It is historical fact and kudos to the republican president Lincoln to lead a civil war to end slavery.


19 posted on 09/14/2020 5:54:38 AM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: dp0622

If Biden wins, we might as well concede victory to the Chinese as masters of the world. China already owns tons of land, mines and industry all over the world.


20 posted on 09/14/2020 5:56:55 AM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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