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'Dead Wrong': Marxist Historian Calls Jihad a 'Myth'
American Thinker.com ^ | July 24, 2020 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 07/24/2020 6:38:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

An especially stark example of how Leftists thrive on distorting history -- a tactic pivotal to their very being -- recently appeared. In a video titled “Dead Wrong: The Anti-Muslim Myth,” Johan Norberg, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute who holds an MA in “the History of Ideas” from the University of Stockholm, begins as follows:

The Nativist right likes to tell the story of the West through the prism of a conflict between Christendom and Islam. One of the founding myths is the Battle of Vienna in 1683, when the united Christian armies defeated the Muslim Ottoman Turks. This historical narrative is dead wrong, because back then, people concerned themselves with other divisions.

The rest of the brief video -- one minute, forty-two seconds are devoted to proving the “anti-Muslim myth” -- tries to substantiate this, primarily by arguing that there were divisions within Christendom, specifically infighting between Catholics and Protestants, which prompted some of the latter to ally with the Ottomans against Vienna.

This argument fails on many levels. For starters, Norberg overlooks two simple and interrelated facts: 1) realpolitik -- prioritizing the practical over the ideal -- is as old as human society; 2) that does not mean that ideals do not exist and motivate politics, including war. It’s not a question of “either/or.”

Naturally, as northern Protestants and southern Muslims had the same common enemy between them -- Catholic Christendom, particularly in the guise of the Holy Roman Empire -- the timeless adage that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” was evident during the siege of Vienna, as well as previous conflicts. Elizabeth I of England (r. 1558–1603), for example,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; california; jihadist; johannorberg; nancypelosi; waronterror

1 posted on 07/24/2020 6:38:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Several million people, including thousands in the World Trade Towers, were unavailable for comment.


2 posted on 07/24/2020 6:40:06 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Kaslin

We have a 1398 year history of jihad to know that Islam is not peaceful.

Marxist propaganda won’t change that.


3 posted on 07/24/2020 6:41:48 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

So it’s still Constantinople and not Istanbul? Hagia Sophia is still Christian and not a mosque? Some ideas are so ridiculous only a professor could propose it.


4 posted on 07/24/2020 6:57:42 AM PDT by Nateman
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How can anyone call it a myth, if the Jihadi’s call it JIHAD?


5 posted on 07/24/2020 7:08:13 AM PDT by SMARTY (Freedom from effort in the present means effort has been stored up, in the past. T Roosevelt)
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To: Kaslin

Always wondered what happened to Baghdad Bob...


6 posted on 07/24/2020 8:10:18 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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From about 200 AD to 600 AD all of North Africa was Christian.

Mid 600 AD Mohammed the psychotic sociopath and his Bedouin hoards swept out of Arabia to rape and pillage North Africa.

This was not your typical war of economic conquest as was war in the past. This was a war of religious conquest.

The followers of Mohammed did not follow him for the usual reasons of taking the property of others and to sew their seed in the women of the conquered.

They followed Mohammed to spread the heresy of Islam.

Those conquered converted to Islam, were enslaved or died a horrible death.

This was Jihad. This was their purpose.

7 posted on 07/24/2020 8:33:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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Marxist historian? Isn’t that an oxymoron. Marxist propagandist would be more accurate.


8 posted on 07/24/2020 11:10:50 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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