Posted on 06/23/2020 6:41:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
Rarified conservative arguments that we should remove Confederate monuments is tantamount to accepting the lefts vision of America as irredeemably racist.
Last week, as statues of George Washington and Thomas Jeffersonamong many otherswere pulled down by angry mobs, conservative writers Rich Lowry and Philip Klein were penning throat-clearing columns explaining how its wrong to pull down monuments to the Founders but okay to remove Confederate statues, because you see, Confederates were traitors who fought for slavery.
Which, of course they were. But at this point it would be hard to imagine an argument more detached from reality. Lowry and Kleinand all the other conservatives who have made the case for a civilized and nuanced iconoclasm in recent yearsare arguing a point exactly no one is debating right now, least of all the woke mob.
Confederate statues shouldnt be vandalized, but they should be reconsidered, writes Lowry in a column arguing conservatives should feel no investment in Confederate monuments, unlike monuments to the Founders. But werent many of the Founders also slave-owners? Yes, but you see, In 2020, we do not celebrate Washington or Jefferson as slaveholders, explains Klein. We celebrate Washington as a general who led our struggle for independence and who was the first president. See the fine distinction?
To read this stuff youd think municipal governments across the country were right now having massive townhall meetings with an engaged and informed citizenry, debating the relative merits of their public monuments in good faith and, in an orderly and democratic way, voting to have them relocated to a local museum or a Civil War battlefield, maybe with explanatory plaques for added historical context.
If thats what you think is happening, I have a statue of Robert E. Lee to sell you.
Lets be clear, the mobs pulling down statues make no distinction between Confederate and Union, slave-trader or abolitionist, secessionist or pro-Union. They make no distinction between American, Spanish, or Cherokee. They do not care if the monument was erected in the nineteenth century or the twenty-first.
Ulysses S. Grant, whose statue in San Franciscos Golden Gate Park was toppled by a mob on Friday, is as wicked as Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, whose statue was removed from a Memphis park in 2017 and whose remains, along with his wifes, will soon be dug up and carried off to an undisclosed location.
By their logic, one can only assume that Lowry and Klein were happy to hear about the disinterment of Forrests bones no less than the removal of his monument. After all, he fought for an evil regime and he deserves no place of honor in a public square. Forrest and all the other Confederate monuments, argues Lowry, are an unnecessary affront to black citizens, who shouldnt have to see defenders of chattel slavery put on a pedestal, literally.
This is a curious argument for a conservative to make, that some Americans shouldnt have to see supposedly offensive statuary of historical figures. What else, one wonders, does Lowry think possibly offended Americans shouldnt have to see? Should Native Americans not have to see statues of Christopher Columbus? Should Mexican-Americans not have to see the statues of Gen. Winfield Scott and Gen. George Thomas, heroes of the Mexican-American war?
If not, what is the limiting principle here? If black Americans have a claim against Fort Benning and Fort Bragg, both named after Confederate leaders, why dont Native Americans have a claim against, say, Fort Carson in Colorado, which bears the name of Kit Carson, an Indian fighter who took his first Indian scalp at age 19. Is that not offensive? Should we not rename the base? Why not? No one can say.
Conservatives with a quixotic view of public art and memory might have a limiting principle in theory, but it seems no one has stopped defacing and smashing statues long enough to ask them about it. Perhaps well discover a limiting principle after Teddy Roosevelts statue outside the American Museum of Natural History in Manhattan comes down. Or maybe once Mount Rushmore is a pile of rubble well settle on a neat formula for purging the public square of our past sins.
But most likely not, because there is no limiting principle at work here. There never was.
As if to underscore this point, on Monday we saw New York Times columnist and old-timey liberal Nicholas Kristof display a thoroughly Pollyannaish view of the statue debate in his response to a comment from Matt Schlapp that statues of Jesus would be pulled down next. Thats ridiculous, tweeted Kristof. Wasnt Jesus a person of color brutalized by an oppressive colonial regime? Jesus is a symbol of victims of violence, not of authoritarians who erect statues.
Quick to disabuse Kristof of his naiveté was Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King, who explained that in fact the statues of the white European they claim is Jesus should also come down, along with, All murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus, and his European mother, and their white friends should also come down.
Yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim is Jesus should also come down.
They are a form of white supremacy.
Always have been.
In the Bible, when the family of Jesus wanted to hide, and blend in, guess where they went?
EGYPT!
Not Denmark.
Tear them down.
— Shaun King (@shaunking) June 22, 2020
This should come as no surprise. History tells us iconoclasm has no brakes, and is really just a precursor to something worse. The mob eventually tires of smashing statues and moves on to people.
Conservatives should reject the entire notion that tearing down monuments, whether to Confederates or conquistadors, can ever be considered salutary or even conservative in any meaningful sense. To do so would be to accept the lefts corrupted view of American history, which demands we destroy all reminders of our sinful past.
Instead of accepting that the sins of Lee and Forrest redound to the present day, we can chose to think differently about the wide array of monuments and statuary across our national landscape. In the process, we can perhaps learn something important about ourselves as a people.
What was erected to give honor in an earlier generation can simply remind us today of who we are and how far weve come. Theres no need to pass by a statue of Lee or Jefferson Davis with downcast eyes or a clenched fist. Their cause has been defeated utterly, and their monuments have becomeor could become, if we wanted ittestaments to our national greatness. They could be powerful reminders that we overcame not just the Civil War but the failure of Reconstruction and the Jim Crow era that followed.
Why dig up Forrest’s bones when we could instead hold a celebration at his gravesitenot of him, but of Americas Founding ideal that all men are created equal? What more powerful reminder could there be of our triumph over that racist past? What better way to excise our demons than to declare that they are overthrown, they have no power over us now, and that out of many we are at last one?
If only it could be. Yet this is the very thing the woke mob rejects. The ideologues of the left have wholly accepted the 1619 Project’s frame of American history as a catalogue of crimes. Thats why they tear down monuments indiscriminately. Thats why they ban books and films, and will certainly burn them publicly before long. Thats why they indulge in performative self-righteousness, slaying long-dead enemies as if they were alive and well today. For them, they are.
But this is precisely why conservatives should stop trying to defend the defenestration of Confederate monuments and instead take the left at their word. The mobs rampaging through our streets fundamentally reject an America in which the Union has won the war, in which the vision of our Founders is slowly coming to fruition, in which the dream of Martin Luther King, Jr., is alive and well.
That is not their country. They live in a land of ghosts and phantoms. They are haunted by a vision of America as an inherently wicked place. They are afflicted with bad dreams and dark thoughts.
Conservatives dont need to confirm them in this phantasmagoria. We need to help them wake up.
From its inception, humane history is replete with glory, great achievements, and courageous acts of mass decency. It is also full of deceit, crime, mass murder, racism, cruelty, greed, and error. And LOTS of Willful Ignorance. The BLM cult members need to take off the blinders.
"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed."
Thats Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4 of the Confederate constitution.
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"No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."
Article IV, section 2 of the United States Constitution.
Less explicit, but essentially says the same thing.
Or do you believe that someone can be just a little bit pregnant?
Thanks for posting. “Left’s Corrupt View”???
Anti-American socialists, marxists, mohammedans, collectivists, globalists, criminals, propagandists information domination.
And Maoists. In other words, anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collectives and collectivists.
Civilization
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savages whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
Ayn Rand
No, I get it. I said the reason the Civil War erupted. It wasn’t Slavery, it was the Succession movement. Slavery was only part of the equation.
Remember, Lincoln wanted the Blacks sent back to Africa after the War.
The North benefitted financially from the Agriculture Economy of the South, which means they benefitted from the Slave Labor used in the South.
The issue of Slavery was not the reason the Civil War started. It evolved as the reason in our History Books, but it was not the spark.
That doesn’t uphold the notion that the Civil War was not about the institution of slavery and the abolition thereof, or not “sparked” thereby. The confederate constitution making it “more explicit” (in a number of other clauses beside the one I cited) highlights this matter, as does the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment. The notion of a “fugitive slave clause” was absent from the Articles of Confederation to boot.
What was the secession movement about?
Well we know the civil war was not about slavery for a couple of reasons.
1. Slavery would have continued unabated and indefinitely if the Southern states had remained in the Union.
2. Abraham Lincoln supported the Corwin amendment which would have greatly strengthened the protection for slavery in the United States.
With both sides agreeing on slavery, it can hardly be claimed to be the cause of the war.
The confederate constitution making it more explicit (in a number of other clauses beside the one I cited) highlights this matter,
Again, the USA recognized legal slavery. So you are telling me the CSA really, really, really, recognized legal slavery?
Again, isn't this like being a "little bit pregnant" as opposed to being really really pregnant?
You either had legal slavery or you didn't. There were no graduations of it. It was "yes" or "no."
The notion of a fugitive slave clause was absent from the Articles of Confederation to boot.
So was the bill of rights and a lot of other subsequent necessities.
I will also point out that in 1776, every single state had legal slavery. Why would they need to write anything protecting it when everyone was already in agreement on all the essential points, such as "fugitive slaves"?
More than most people understand. Imports have to be paid for by exports, and the South produced 73% of the total export value for the United States.
All the taxes came from tariffs on imports, which essentially meant they were paid for by exports produced mainly from the South.
The North was hardly getting taxed at all. With 5 times the South's population, it was paying a little over 1/4th of the tax burden the South was paying.
Money.
The Southern states would be better off financially with low tariffs that enabled their foreign customers to buy more of their goods. They would also be better off paying lower prices for the manufactured goods they did not produce.
There were other reasons such as them not liking centralized power and never having liked New England and feeling as though they were being taken advantage of, but the real issue at the heart of it all was money. Theyd keep more if they were independent.
The reverse was true for the Northern states.
this is a brilliant observation
Apparently you believe the Succession Movement was ONLY about Slavery, it was not.
Please don’t put words in my mouth. A primary reason is not the “only reason” by definition.
My apologies. It is what I derived from your previous Posts.
Me bad...
No trouble.
Certainly no lib would acknowledge the other reasons.
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Academic Leftists have ALWAYS avoided the Truth about what MASS MURDER their ideology has always brought. Propaganda by Omission
Let THAT be the Watchword.
Suffer Not The Commie In Your House - He is Poison ....
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AMERICA NEEDS TO VOMIT OUT THIS LEFTIST POISON
AND SHALL.
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