Posted on 03/30/2020 7:18:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
At last, maybe we can gain some real perspective.
YES, YES, YES
The only way out of this is herd immunity, whether through vaccine, or widespread infection. And a vaccine is many months away.
America and the world have been flying blind in trying to understand Covid-19. Only now are we merely starting to understand the spread of this virus through testing of the sickest people. There is very little testing of people with few or no symptoms, to really understand Covid-19 spread (the R0 figure) and true fatality rates.
The other half will be anti-body testing, to understand how many Americans have actually been exposed, and when we will have herd immunity.
See, the whole country should be run just like Colorado...
Partisan Media Shills update.
How’s about getting the old normal back, please. Thank you.
ABC News????
Maybe they are starting to figure out they are putting their advertisers out of work... Not possible
???...”NEW NORMAL”...???
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I am pretty sure I got this bug from my daughter in January. She works in a Hospital and got it from her friend that works in a different Hospital. This was the first time I had been sick in over 20 years, for me it wasn’t that bad, my wife was much worse and my daughters co-workers that got it, some were REAL BAD!, but everyone recovered in a couple weeks.
They already did this in a town in Italy...
They didn’t have the antibody test, but they tested EVERYONE, and isolated those positive, and let every ones live their lives.... and surprise, surprise that town didn’t get decimated by the virus while it raged in towns and cities around it.
Of course, they had no one coming in and out of the town either during this time.
My daughter believes she got it in early January as well, before it was identified very well. She and her husband were very sick for over 2 weeks and had the symptoms that I've seen published.
RE: They already did this in a town in Italy..
Can you please identify the town for us ( any reliable link on the internet would be useful too. Thanks ).
RE: She and her husband were very sick for over 2 weeks and had the symptoms that I’ve seen published.
The problem with Covid-19 is the symptoms mimic the flu.
So, we will never know if they had it or not.
re; I am pretty sure I got this bug from my daughter in January.
The problem with Covid-19 is the symptoms mimic the flu.
So, we will never know if you had it or not.
The death rate, for those under 50, for this seems to be relatively low.... once you get over 60 it shoots up, and over 70 and 80 you are you looking at 20% or higher mortality rate.... .
No that doesn’t mean you can’t be perfectly healthy 20 year old and not wind up dead... it just means the odds of you dying from it statistically very low.
What I would like to see is how many younger cases are “CRITICAL”, because even if you survive, if you are on a ventilator for weeks, I don’t care what age you are, that’s some serious long term damage.... Doesn’t mean younger folks won’t eventually get better... but even if you survive, after being on a ventilator for weeks you are going to have long road ahead of you.
From what I have read, and I am no way pretending to be an expert, but it appears if you wind up on an ventilator, your odds of survival are in the 15%-20% range or so if my memory serves, if that... So if you reach the point you are put on a ventilator, odds are NOT in your favor that you are going to survive at that point.
Sad, but apparent reality of this, at this point.
I personally believe a LOT more people have had that, than any of the numbers are currently showing... This bug’s been here “officially” since January, but probably before that, and no testing of any serious numbers happened until march... so lots of folks had this, got told they had the flu, and life went on for the majority of them.
Similar experience at the end of December. My daughter got the symptoms a day after me. Both of us had the flu shot. I never get the flu until this weird bout of illness. One day of a severe sore throat, several days of a low grade fever, fatigue, and overall body aches. Cough and wheeze. Recovered in about a week. I would love to get an antibody test.
Also, depending on what research you read, the asymptomatic folks (people who get it but never display symptoms) are around 20% of the cases, on the low end of estimates.... meaning 1 in 5 people who have this thing, never display any symptoms.. or at least not symptoms that warrant them seeking any sort of medical attention.
From what I am reading, being on a ventilator means essentially game over. One study said that 31 out of 32 patients on a ventilator due to the virus died. Some patients were on the ventilator for weeks.
Yes if you are on a ventilator its about 15%-20% survival rate from Ive seen overall..
Lack of adequate oxygenation eventually causes organ or systemic failure
I know it sounds cold, but unless we get the survival rate up after intubation one has to start to question whether we are simply prolonging suffering for most patients. I dont think any patient over 70 has recovered once intimated. May be no one over 60.
intubated... not intimated
Yet, the government and media obsess over ventilators
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